Evil Coco
2/2 Zombie
Posts: 110
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor
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Post by Evil Coco on Sept 26, 2018 15:26:09 GMT
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Post by Fleur on Sept 26, 2018 19:04:39 GMT
Up: Pie break - neither blue nor red can destroy specific permanents (red gets permanent sac which is not the same thing). The overload is probably too strong, too - that's basically an instant "I Win" button. I don't know how I feel about making challenges requiring renders, so I decided instead to make a card that feels very old style. Axunar Holyguide Legendary Creature - Dwarf Wizard Plainswalk When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, you gain 5 life. You may cast CARDNAME from your graveyard if there are three or more instant and/or sorcery cards above it. 5/5 Old: Classic-style render. New: Dragon.
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Post by gluestick248 on Sept 27, 2018 7:35:48 GMT
Up: Feels very old-style. Not overpowered, but it looks playable.
Nothing is more classic-style than Legends: Kelros of Shiv 6RR Summon Legend Kelros of Shiv counts as a Dragon Flying When Kelros flows overhead, his wings block out the sun, but his fire is bright as day. 6/6
Old: Dragon New: Fish
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Post by sibrand on Sept 27, 2018 10:12:07 GMT
Up: I think this card is really underpowered. Yes, you should give it an old legends feeling, but at least meke it an 8 mana 8/8 flyer. Old: Fish New: Silver bordered
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Post by Jartis on Sept 27, 2018 10:44:54 GMT
Your post beat me by 15 minutes and I'm sad XD
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Post by gluestick248 on Sept 27, 2018 12:11:12 GMT
Up: I think this card is really underpowered. Yes, you should give it an old legends feeling, but at least meke it an 8 mana 8/8 flyer. That’s fair. I did make sure it was bigger than Shivan Dragon though.
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Post by Jartis on Sept 27, 2018 12:46:13 GMT
Up: A 4/4 for 3 with abilities it can use the turn it comes out is pretty strong, imo. Old: Silver bordered New: New subtype Sidenote: Is there really no newer silver borders than the Modern template?
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Post by gluestick248 on Sept 27, 2018 14:00:41 GMT
Can’t you manually change the border color?
Up: The concept is silver-bordered, but everything the card does is doable in black-border. Also, this is a card no one would play.
Monte’s Madness 2UR Enchantment — Hyperaura Enchant three creatures controlled by the same player (if that player loses control of one of the creatures, this enchantment is put into its owner’s graveyard) 3: Choose one of the enchanted creatures, then turn all three face down and shuffle them. Reveal one of an opponent’s choice. If that card was the chosen creature, that player draws two cards. If not, you draw two cards.
Old: New subtype New: Two card types
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Post by viriss on Sept 27, 2018 20:33:45 GMT
Up: That's a lot of hoops. Do you turn them back up afterwards? (Set uses a sub-type of a name like planeswalkers. So same named sub-types are part of a "set".) Old: Two card types New: Uses +1/+1 counters
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Evil Coco
2/2 Zombie
Posts: 110
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor
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Post by Evil Coco on Sept 28, 2018 13:10:16 GMT
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Post by sibrand on Sept 28, 2018 13:15:02 GMT
Up: What are your restrictions?
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Sept 28, 2018 17:02:25 GMT
Evil Coco As per the rules of the game, please post a new restriction and the previous "new" restriction as the current "old" restriction.
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Evil Coco
2/2 Zombie
Posts: 110
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor
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Post by Evil Coco on Sept 29, 2018 21:21:21 GMT
Old: +1/ +1 counters New: Dimir Forgot to add it, and never got a chance to fix it until now.
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Post by Jartis on Oct 1, 2018 17:45:44 GMT
Up: What's the p/t on Reborn of the Light? Also, completely halting your offense in exchange for one rather expensive white defender is probably not something I would ever do, even if I was trying to get off an alternate win condition. Whispered Secrets Enchantment - Aura Enchant creature. When enchanted creature deals combat damage to a player, put a +1/+1 counter on enchanted creature and that player puts the top card of their library into their graveyard. Old: Dimir New: Saga
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Post by viriss on Oct 2, 2018 0:55:32 GMT
Old: Saga New: Squirrels!
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Post by gamma3 on Oct 2, 2018 2:41:04 GMT
UP: Well, it certainly feels Dimir. I really want to like this, but there is no connection between the first two chapters and the third. All the existing sagas connect in some way. The Eldest Reborn puts things in graveyards, then reanimates something. The Mending of Dominaria self mills/recurs creatures, then recurs all the lands you just milled. Your card is more "Here's some things that feel like Dimir" without self-synergy between the mechanics, which is a bit disappointing. Seems balanced though. 7/10 OLD: Squirrels! NEW: Cares about lands
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Post by Fleur on Oct 2, 2018 13:29:36 GMT
Up: I don't know how I feel about this - land searching is lowkey in all colors, but the card does not really form a neat package overall. Not really a fan. Nocturnus Strider Creature - Golem CARDNAME enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Swamp. When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, target opponent loses X life, where X is the amount of mana spent to cast CARDNAME. 2/3 Old: Hybrid + effect caring about amount of mana spent New: Uncommon
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Post by Flo00 on Oct 2, 2018 13:34:36 GMT
@lydia Deetz: First, your card doesn't have to do anything with squirrels. You need to fulfil both requiremants. Second, red alone shouldn't be able to search for lands. Third, no offense, but your templating is so off it hurts my eyes. Here some "rules": - Keywords allways come first, except for cast trigger, allternate casting cost or cost reduction. - You don't add cards from your library to your hand. You search your library for it, reveal the card, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library. (I know it's much wordier, but since there are cards that trigger of searching and shuffling, it kind of has to be that way.) - There is no such thing as a red land. You could search for a Mountain or a land that produces red mana. I'd rather go for the first. - Triggers allways start with "when" or "whenever". You did this in the first ability, but why not in the last? - You can't add . " style="max-width:100%;"]" style="max-width:100%;"] is a cost that can be paid by mana that was produced from a snow source. Just make the dragon snow and you're fine. All in all, I'd word it something like this: Flying When ~ enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a snow land or Mountain, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your libary. When ~ leaves the battlefield, add " style="max-width:100%;"] to your mana pool. {ninjad}Darting Flame " style="max-width:100%;"] " style="max-width:100%;"]::3R:: Sorcery " style="max-width:100%;"]" style="max-width:100%;"] Darting Flame deals X damage to target creature, where X is the ammount of mana spent to cast it. Old: ::2/U:: (any color mana) + an ability that cares about the amount of mana used to cast it New: Commander
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Evil Coco
2/2 Zombie
Posts: 110
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor
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Post by Evil Coco on Oct 2, 2018 15:10:56 GMT
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Oct 2, 2018 16:35:42 GMT
Up: Wording issues aside, putting loyalty counters on Planeswalkers is a good idea in theory...but Commander color identity rules means that this would require a 5-color Planeswalker with the "Can be commander ability", which...doesn't exist. In other words, this card is literally unplayable. I take it we're rolling with Fl00's old limit, so: Commander's Chaplain Enchantment Creature - Spirit Cleric Other creatures you control get +0/+1. Lieutenant — As long as you control your commander, other creatures you control get +1/+0. 2/2 Might be a bit pushed but I think the increased vulnerability to removal and the general preference for bigger effects in commander makes it okay. Old: Enchantment Creature New: Has something to do with Conspiracies, or is a Conspiracy spawning/tutoring a token or card of <other restriction>.
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Post by Jartis on Oct 2, 2018 21:09:57 GMT
Up: Since it's designed for Commander, and isn't as big of an effect outside of that format, I think it works for what it is. Old: Has something to do with Conspiracies, or is a Conspiracy spawning/tutoring a token or card of <other restriction>. New: Planeswalker
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Post by Flo00 on Oct 3, 2018 17:32:24 GMT
Up: Nice ability. It took me a while to get what the "llok at conspiracies" ability does. You allways have the effect, ssince you allways control the Ravens (else the ability wouldn't be yours). But if you enchant another player's creature, they can also look at conspiracies. I think an easier way to write this is "You and enchanted creature's controller may look at..." Or maybe you wanted only enchanted creature's controller as long as it's attached to a creature? That would be a bit wordier. Call for Guidance Conspiracy Double Agenda (Start the game with this conspiracy face down in the command zone and secretly choose two different card names. You may turn this conspiracy face up any time and reveal those names.)Whenever a spell or permanent with one of the chosen names deals damage to an opponent, you may search your library for a planeswalker with one of the chosen names, reveal it and put it into your hand, then shuffle your library. Old: Planeswalker New: Land destruction
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Post by gluestick248 on Oct 3, 2018 19:53:50 GMT
Up: Since Conspiracies are meant to be played in Limited, having a Planeswalker to search for is unlikely. However, if you do pick one up, it lets you play it more often, which is a plus.
Windgrace, the Furious 4BRG Planeswalker — Windgrace +2: You may sacrifice a land. If you do, create a 2/2 green Cat Warrior creature token with forestwalk. -4: Destroy target permanent. -13: Destroy all lands your opponent’s control. Then, starting with you, each player puts a land card from a graveyard onto the battlefield tapped. Repeat this until there are no land cards in graveyards. SL: 6
Old: Land Destruction New: Has 3 of the same mana symbol
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Post by viriss on Oct 4, 2018 2:30:33 GMT
Up: Dark. So dark. Almost feels like an enchant world. Old: A doublefaced male human that transforms into Lydia Deetz for whatever reason Well, it is the month of Halloween. New: Non-planeswalker
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Evil Coco
2/2 Zombie
Posts: 110
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor
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Post by Evil Coco on Oct 4, 2018 3:06:19 GMT
Honestly, i didn't think anyone would be crazy enough to go through with it. TBT, i was just expecting to get called out for breaking the obscure fiction rule. TABT, i think would have been a bit more fitting for Betelgeuse/Beetlejuice
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Oct 6, 2018 3:24:28 GMT
UP: Thankfully the reverse side has abilities that mostly accomplish Blue-esque results though the -3 might be pushing it. (Tbf, what transform card hasn't?) I think what bothers me more than anything else is that there's no real strategy to the front half - you just rush it out and hope it gets in enough whacks before an inevitable shock. Time to be technically correct. Grigori Formstealer Creature - Nephilim Rogue , : Target creature gets -2/-2 and can't be blocked until end of turn. If a creature dies this way, transform ~. 2/2 From the gravebound...///// Duplicitous Judge( ) Creature - Nephilim Advisor , : This card’s name becomes the card name of your choice and this creature loses this ability. Your opponents can't cast spells that share a card name with this creature. 2/2 ...to the one that binds souls to graves.Think of _____'s slightly less silver-border-style cousin. Old: Non-Planeswalker New: Gate
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Post by Jartis on Oct 6, 2018 7:46:42 GMT
Up: To paraphrase Number 1.0: You are technically correct. The best kind of correct. Interested in why you used Nephilim, since every example of them we have is 4-color. But they weren't a terribly /good/ cycle to begin with, so maybe the rules need to be rewritten for them anyway. I wrestled a bit with whether I wanted to make a new Gate or just a card that interacted with them. Then I debated keeping it Guild-themed as the Gates have been thusfar. I thought about doing some 3-color nonsense, but then decided that Guild lands as they are still had some room to expand, so I drew some inspiration from Future Sight lands, mixed in some new mechanics, and came up with this. If House Dimir is publicly known, now, they should have a Guildgate that the general public gets to see, right? Old: Gate New: Fortification
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Post by gluestick248 on Oct 6, 2018 16:58:37 GMT
Up: T1 untapped 2 mana is very risky. Imagine playing a turn 1 Dimir Spybug, then just surveilling every turn. I’d recommend entering the battlefield tapped, or some other drawback. And I really hope this isn’t a common. Mandatory Security Artifact — Fortification Fortify Whenever fortified land becomes tapped, create a 1/1 white Soldier creature token with lifelink. If fortified land is a Gate, create two of these tokens instead. Old: Fortification New: Removal
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