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Post by Daij_Djan on Aug 15, 2022 20:37:21 GMT
Welcome to the Card of the Week Contest! To participate in this Contest you'll have to design a card along the contest guidelines and throw it into the arena with other competitors' entries! At the end of each week, a winner will be determined by forum poll. The winner's card will be rendered and featured on the Welcome page, and the winner decides the challenge for the next week's Contest! Here we go, competitors: our four-hundred and twenty-eighth challenge! The winners of the "Venture into the Design" poll were emberfire17 (top) and vizionarius (bottom) with...And the challenge issued by one of our winners was... Design a card that maintains counters or some changed features as it moves from one zone to another zone, but are not stickers. To increase your chances of winning and to also make creating the poll easier on whomever is doing so, please try to use a render. Additionally, please try to keep your entry edits all in one post - if you need to change it you can put your old entry in a spoiler marked "Old entry" and leave the newest rendition to be seen. Just use the edit button in the top/right of your original post.And now, time to begin the challenge! Best of luck, competitors!
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Fermat
8/8 Octopus
Posts: 436
Favorite Card: Force of Will
Favorite Set: Guildpact (set when I started playing)
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Black
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Post by Fermat on Aug 15, 2022 23:46:31 GMT
Dawg, I heard you like perpetuity, so I put perpetuity in your perpetuity.
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damagicgeek
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 77
Favorite Card: Venser, the Sojourner
Favorite Set: Innistrad: Midnight Hunt
Color Alignment: White, Blue
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Post by damagicgeek on Aug 16, 2022 1:49:16 GMT
Hopefully this meets the expectation for the challenge.
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Post by t2stonerain on Aug 16, 2022 3:10:21 GMT
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Post by BinaryBolas on Aug 16, 2022 12:16:51 GMT
So upon considering the "open info" dilemma, I redesigned the "paper version" so that it works as a foretell & flashback card, although the text box can be a little crammed. I also made an "Arena version" of my original design, although that feels a little "mediocre" for me. (Feel free to change my mind any time) {The First Submission} {The "Arena" Version}
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Post by sdfkjgh on Aug 16, 2022 16:26:15 GMT
Happy Dead Squirrel sounds like a greeting for the worst holiday ever.
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Post by sdfkjgh on Aug 16, 2022 16:49:09 GMT
How Silver-border (I guess now AcronAcorn) does perpetual effects: Weaksauce Artifact All cards perpetually get -1/-0. This includes non-Magic cards, works in all zones, across all formats, and even works outside of any game. ---------------------------------------- “Due to the nature of how this card works, its very existence dictates an extremely limited print run. Seriously people, we don’t think you get the full ramifications here yet. Because of this card, we’ve had to errata ALL cards to take this card into account, and each subsequent one we print only makes the problem worse!”
—WotC R&DNot sure what it means to give a business card -1/-0, or even what doing so would do to Pat's ego, but this card does it.
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Post by emberfire17 on Aug 16, 2022 17:07:37 GMT
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Post by The Harlequin on Aug 16, 2022 17:11:10 GMT
Suspend-wording from EpochrasiteThe main issue with this challange is you basically can only allow it to work in spaces that are public knowledge. If the card itselfe ever leaves this space (hand/library/exiled face down aren't public) noone can verify which card is affected by this mechanic/interaction/etcpp. I want everyone to keep that in mind
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bucketman
0/0 Germ
Posts: 27
Favorite Card: Horde of Notions
Favorite Set: Throne of Eldraine
Color Alignment: Black, Green
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Post by bucketman on Aug 16, 2022 18:28:40 GMT
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boxlaunch
0/0 Germ
Posts: 28
Favorite Card: Uninvited Geist
Favorite Set: Shadows Over Innistrad
Color Alignment: Black, Green
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Post by boxlaunch on Aug 16, 2022 18:57:45 GMT
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Post by vizionarius on Aug 16, 2022 19:55:00 GMT
The main issue with this challange is you basically can only allow it to work in spaces that are public knowledge. If the card itselfe ever leaves this space (hand/library/exiled face down aren't public) noone can verify which card is affected by this mechanic/interaction/etcpp. I want everyone to keep that in mind Yes. This is correct! Anything in hidden zones cannot be verified. You can probably get around cards in hand by keeping it revealed for as long as it has counters. Less easy with cards in libraries. This of course applies only to paper Magic.
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Post by Daij_Djan on Aug 16, 2022 20:46:26 GMT
So, how about this one:
Some guidelines for the mechanic: - I know Ascend already exists, but I couldn't come up with a better name (not being a native English speaker might be part of this ) – so I decided to use it anyway, at least for now.
- Just like you cannot force a DFC to transform, you cannot force an Ascend card.
- All Ascend cards are supposed to be non-legendaries ascending into legends, except maybe a one-off exception for Commander, obviously
- All ascended legends will have an option to be cast from the graveyard. At lower rarities, I after some pondering I definitely like the heavy double restricted discard to balance the power level – but since the recursion isn't tied to Ascend itself, there's some wiggle room for mythics.
- I don't think there should be common Ascend cards due to their complexity, Limited gameplay, and flavor.
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damagicgeek
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 77
Favorite Card: Venser, the Sojourner
Favorite Set: Innistrad: Midnight Hunt
Color Alignment: White, Blue
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Post by damagicgeek on Aug 17, 2022 0:03:01 GMT
Daij_Djan If you're in the market for fancy alternatives to "ascend" there is "apotheosize" (verb form of apotheosis)
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Lady
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 95
Favorite Card: Secret Rendezvous
Favorite Set: Kaldheim
Color Alignment: Black, Green
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Post by Lady on Aug 17, 2022 9:52:03 GMT
I rarely make planeswalkers, so this card was a fun challenge make.
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Post by sdfkjgh on Aug 17, 2022 16:24:26 GMT
Daij_Djan: You could also use transcend. Also, the legendary side's lifegain modification is a little weird. If a single source causes you gain more than 5 life, any excess above 5 would be negated, is this intentional?
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Post by The Harlequin on Aug 17, 2022 16:50:49 GMT
If i haven't mentioned someone -- it is because i have nothing constructive to say about the entry. Fermat as mentioned, if the effected creature ever leaves the public space it can't get verified any more. also: is this abbility ment to alter the base-power or just as a permanent increase? cause there are effects that care about total value and some that care about base value. you may need to clarify that. damagicgeek you explicitly mention "sliver cards" -- but the effect only counts for creatures ;-) Counters remain on this card as it moves between battlefield, graveyard and exile. -- i would use that one , it is shorter and does the same BinaryBolas it can't work that way cause of verification reasons. after revealing it, it isn't public knowledge any more and therefore can't be verified as you cast it for real. the same is true for your "counter remain" effect -- they can ever only be verified in public known places -- and hand/library/face-down exile aren't public. emberfire17 "moves between battlefield and commander zone" boxlaunch Eminence -- At the beginning of each upkeep , if ~ is in your command zone or on the battlefield, put a eminence counter on it. ...power and thougness are each equal to.... Lady The main issue with planeswalker is that they have a starting value of loyalty counters. The way your entry works atm is that no matter how much counter it has in every given zone, it if enters the battlefield from any of them, it's loyalty counter will always get reset to it's base value -- 4 in your case.
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boxlaunch
0/0 Germ
Posts: 28
Favorite Card: Uninvited Geist
Favorite Set: Shadows Over Innistrad
Color Alignment: Black, Green
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Post by boxlaunch on Aug 17, 2022 17:10:20 GMT
The Harlequinboxlaunch Eminence -- At the beginning of each upkeep , if ~ is in your command zone or on the battlefield, put a eminence counter on it. I would disagree that the Eminence ability would need to be on each upkeep as this means when you drop it for the first time on turns 5-8 could instantly pump your board for 20-32. I believe the current design space for Eminence supports this, specifically with Araboh which can only trigger on your turn as well. And, with this card being colorless, there are plenty of way to proliferate and "fairly" add more counters than it just sitting in the command zone until it is a game ending pump spell.
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Post by Daij_Djan on Aug 17, 2022 18:53:17 GMT
Daij_Djan If you're in the market for fancy alternatives to "ascend" there is "apotheosize" (verb form of apotheosis) Oh, I like that one – especially since I've never heard of it in the past Also, the legendary side's lifegain modification is a little weird. If a single source causes you gain more than 5 life, any excess above 5 would be negated, is this intentional? Big thanks for the catch, no it was not! Very important „less than“ term missing Entry will be updated soon!
Fermat as mentioned, if the effected creature ever leaves the public space it can't get verified any more. also: is this abbility ment to alter the base-power or just as a permanent increase? cause there are effects that care about total value and some that care about base value. you may need to clarify that. His card is actually worded and works just fine – perpetual changes are a digital exclusive Magic Arena mechanic. WotC is fine nowadays with having cards that cannot be played in paper Magic. Interesting question concerning the base stats – I have no idea. I dropped Arena literally the moment they introduced Hearthstone mechanics, only see the designs during spoiler season.. BinaryBolas it can't work that way cause of verification reasons. after revealing it, it isn't public knowledge any more and therefore can't be verified as you cast it for real. the same is true for your "counter remain" effect -- they can ever only be verified in public known places -- and hand/library/face-down exile aren't public. This card could likewise be changed to work in Arena. I think the proper wording would be: Starting intensity 1 , Reveal ~ from your hand: Perpetually increase its intensity by 1. Activate only once each turn. Draw cards equal to ~'s intensity. You have no maximum hand size for the rest of the game.
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Post by vizionarius on Aug 17, 2022 19:36:24 GMT
BinaryBolas it can't work that way cause of verification reasons. after revealing it, it isn't public knowledge any more and therefore can't be verified as you cast it for real. the same is true for your "counter remain" effect -- they can ever only be verified in public known places -- and hand/library/face-down exile aren't public. This card could likewise be changed to work in Arena. I think the proper wording would be: Starting intensity 1 , Reveal ~ from your hand: Perpetually increase its intensity by 1. Activate only once each turn. Draw cards equal to ~'s intensity. You have no maximum hand size for the rest of the game. You can also make it work in paper by: , Reveal ~ from your hand: Add an intensity counter on ~. Activate only once each turn. ~ remains revealed for as long as it has a counter on it.This way, even though it's in a hidden zone, it becomes a publicly-known object. But probably the easiest way would be to have the ability put it into exile where it collects the counter, then be able to cast it from exile. But that might bring about some unintended interactions.
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Lady
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 95
Favorite Card: Secret Rendezvous
Favorite Set: Kaldheim
Color Alignment: Black, Green
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Post by Lady on Aug 18, 2022 0:56:01 GMT
The HarlequinThe litch coming back from the grave, being just as strong as when you first faced her seems pretty fitting to me. And if I were to try and change it, the card would almost be wordy enough for Clamilton to kill Emrakul; or the +/- costs would be bonkers numbers.
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Post by The Harlequin on Aug 18, 2022 8:18:17 GMT
boxlaunch fine by me -- it was just a sugestion. as long as you add the "," after upkeep and the "are each equal" i am happy. @lady my main issue: the theme of her has no realy reason to keep counters in exile. lich's are undead -- and should imo only interact with the graveyard. other than that -- the whole thing just feels forced to me imo.
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Post by Jartis on Aug 18, 2022 11:49:25 GMT
I tried to have the creature itself do some crazy powerful stuff, but there's just not a lot of room given the words required to get the base to work. So I guess this is like a hyper tribal commander? It can boost your numbers of certain creature types, Shrines, artifacts, snow, whatever you need. I think that's neat enough.
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Post by Idea on Aug 18, 2022 15:29:25 GMT
I decided to try the approach of a creature that would stay changed even after going into the library. Figured keeping only a single copy of it would be key to being able to track it across the game (for a player, don't know about the game, but tracking these things across zones is bending the rules anyway). Regarding tracking the mutated creatures, you could just set them aside.
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Post by collex on Aug 19, 2022 0:47:03 GMT
JartisForgive me, but my translator brain kicked in and I had to point out that the way the last line of your card is written, it is ambiguous if "in all zones" apply to "Kanohi" or "creatures with mask counters on them". My suggestion would be to put a period after "them", then write "This remains true in all zone." This way,there can be no confusion.
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spazlaz
6/6 Wurm
Posts: 335
Color Alignment: Blue, Black
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Post by spazlaz on Aug 19, 2022 3:55:27 GMT
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vstrange
1/1 Squirrel
Resurrecting the dead, D.N.D.
Posts: 52
Formerly Known As: Lich Puppy
Favorite Card: Ur-Dragon
Favorite Set: Ikoria
Color Alignment: Black, Green
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Post by vstrange on Aug 19, 2022 20:36:55 GMT
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Post by melono on Aug 22, 2022 14:59:56 GMT
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Post by vizionarius on Aug 22, 2022 17:08:31 GMT
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Post by Daij_Djan on Aug 22, 2022 21:13:48 GMT
This thread is now closed, the poll can be found here. And here's the next challenge!
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