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Post by Daij_Djan on May 10, 2021 17:14:03 GMT
Welcome to the Card of the Week Contest! To participate in this Contest you'll have to design a card along the contest guidelines and throw it into the arena with other competitors' entries! At the end of each week, a winner will be determined by forum poll. The winner's card will be rendered and featured on the Welcome page, and the winner decides the challenge for the next week's Contest! Here we go, competitors: our three-hundred and sixty-sixth challenge!
The winner of the "And when everyone’s flying. No one will be." poll was The Harlequin with... And the challenge issued by our winner was... Most of the time we don't question the mana-costs of spells or activated abilities we play or activate during games – But is that realy all there is to it? We don't only have mana that we can pay... maybe with our souls? Design a card with an additional, alternative way of paying either its (or another card's) casting cost or the cost for activating one (or all) of its activated abilities.
Additionally, please try to keep your entry edits all in one post - if you need to change it you can put your old entry in a spoiler marked "Old entry" and leave the newest rendition to be seen. Just use the edit button in the top/right of your original post.And now, time to begin the challenge! Best of luck, competitors!
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Post by The Harlequin on May 10, 2021 18:20:57 GMT
Well then let's start off with a small fix of this challange: Granting an alternative way of paying was also ment to be possible.
I was kinda dumb for not considering this possible outcome.
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Post by Daij_Djan on May 10, 2021 18:58:35 GMT
Well then let's start off with a small fix of this challange
Fix has been added to the challenge  |
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Post by crashington on May 10, 2021 19:20:11 GMT
My first thought was to find an interesting alternate cost, so i thought your chance to win is a pretty strong one.
A riff on Nexus of fate/Final Fortune was the result.
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Post by The Harlequin on May 10, 2021 20:04:34 GMT
"Rather than paying ~ mana cost, you may choose to cast ~ without paying its mana cost. It ~ was cast this way, you lose the game after your next turn.
Take an extra turn after this one." |
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Post by sdfkjgh on May 10, 2021 20:16:32 GMT
Ryzhen, Incarnate of Potential   Legendary Creature--Avatar Incarnation 
You may pay      rather than pay Ryzhen, Incarnate of Potential’s mana cost. If you do, Ryzhen, Incarnate of Potential enters the battlefield with five +1/+1 counters on it and has first strike, hexproof, lifelink, haste, and trample. 2/1
EDIT: Thanks, The Harlequin, for pointing out the error in formatting. I'm usually better than this. |
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Post by Daij_Djan on May 10, 2021 23:13:28 GMT
Once that idea popped up in my mind, I couldn't resist 
Also when in doubt..
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Nonagon Infinity
2/2 Zombie
Posts: 124
Favorite Card: Barren Glory
Favorite Set: Future Sight
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by Nonagon Infinity on May 10, 2021 23:20:28 GMT
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Post by Flo00 on May 10, 2021 23:36:44 GMT
 Runed Sarcophagus  Artifact  The first time each turn you activate an activated ability of a creature you control, you may sacrifice that creature rather than pay the ability’s activation cost. The wise rather kill themselves than heed the unholy howl emitting from it’s core. |
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Post by spruder on May 10, 2021 23:56:45 GMT
Keeping it simple this time around, I think this fits the prompt of circumventing a cost.  I like how simple but versatile this is. Demons that require creature sacrifices to be played, everyone sacrifices something effects, abilities that require sacrifices to activate... pair any of those with artifact recurrence and it turns into fairly cheap engine fuel that works with different engines. Edit 1: Added flavor text Edit 2: Changed Card name |
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spazlaz
6/6 Wurm
Posts: 335
Color Alignment: Blue, Black
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Post by spazlaz on May 11, 2021 0:09:14 GMT
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aquonn
1/1 Squirrel
Fun is a zero-sum game
Posts: 59
Favorite Card: Electrodominance
Favorite Set: Guilds of Ravnica
Color Alignment: Blue, Red
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Post by aquonn on May 11, 2021 0:18:03 GMT
I made this one for a challenge a while ago (Planeshot and Planechaser), but felt that Vehicles had become too generic to be exclusively associated with Kaladesh, so I left it. Glad I'm getting a chance to finally use it. |
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Post by viriss on May 11, 2021 1:01:01 GMT
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Orion Rings
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 72
Favorite Card: Homicidal Seclusion
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Post by Orion Rings on May 11, 2021 5:59:39 GMT
 counterspells are illegal |
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Post by melono on May 11, 2021 19:15:45 GMT
 {Spoiler}  |
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Post by Daij_Djan on May 11, 2021 19:58:51 GMT
@ melono: Unless I'm missing something, your entry doesn't fulfill the challenge right now. I assume exiling the card is meant to the the additional cost? If so, it needs to be worded as such (currently it's "only" part of the effect itself):
As an additional cost to cast this spell, exile the top card of your library.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 20:48:13 GMT
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Post by sade612 on May 12, 2021 2:24:59 GMT
 {Text}Catch the Drift  Instant  Kicker—Return a creature you control to its owner’s hand. If this spell was kicked, scry 1. Draw a card. |
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Post by zybourne on May 12, 2021 4:57:01 GMT
 {Text}
Trade Up
3R
Sorcery
Rare
Force—R, Exile a creature you control but don’t own. (You may pay this spell’s force cost rather than pay its mana cost.)
Choose target creature with mana value higher than the highest mana value among creatures you control. Gain control of it, then untap it. It gets +2/+0 and gains haste until end of turn. I like the Claim the Firstborn + Village Rites interaction in standard right now and wanted to make a different sort of payoff card in that space. |
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tempestgannon
0/0 Germ
Posts: 27
Favorite Card: Uncle Istvan
Favorite Set: Future Sight, Shadowmoor, or Dominaria
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Green
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Post by tempestgannon on May 12, 2021 5:43:15 GMT
Still kind of on a Marit Lage kick from last week. Suspend was one of my favorite mechanics back in the day so I thought I'd bring it back for this challenge! Not sure if this challenge required an actual mana cost for the spell, but I figured between suspend and creature sacrifice this card would fulfil the challenge requirements 
{Text Version}
It Awakens
Snow Sorcery :mythic:
Suspend 10—U/BB/G
You may sacrifice a snow creature at any time to remove a time counter from It Awakens.
Create Marit Lage, a legendary 20/20 black Avatar creature token with flying and indestructible.
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Post by Tesagk on May 13, 2021 15:53:18 GMT
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Post by spruder on May 13, 2021 17:11:41 GMT
I'm sure the wording on mine needs some work: Blood Ritual Enchantment Sacrifice a creature: You may add the sacrificed creature’s mana cost to your mana pool, use this mana to cast only instant or sorcery spells or to pay costs of an instant or sorcery spell. “By my blood the cost is paid!” - Rakdos RitualistThis looks super fun. I want this card so I can Deathrender a Sneak Attack style hand full of Dragons into a Fireball. It might be too efficient though, conversion effects tend to go down one increment or have a minor cost (think like cascade). It would still be strong even with a small cost and without the added "or costs of instant or sorcery spells" If I were to edit, maybe something like this: I like the idea here and love the Mycosynth Lattice reference. That said, I think it's a bit too strong to make cards without generic costs totally free and have it generate mana also. Mycosyth Lattice balanced by not reducing the actual costs and giving everyone the benefit of mana fixing but this as it is currently is just pure gravy for one player at the same cost. Maybe you could drop the tap effect and add a Heartstone style addendum to make it more reasonable (something like "Spells that would have their cost reduced to  by this effect cost instead.") or make it apply to all players like the original did. Could be fine as is though, doesn't have the color damping or type fixing the original did. It does less overall but what it does do feels stronger? Any time you have the ability to make Ultimatums free all day any day it seems kinda cheesy, like Omniscience but colorless CMC 6. |
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Post by The Harlequin on May 13, 2021 21:25:48 GMT
Time for a Whip
Disclaimer: It's just my own oppinion and I dont want to offend anyone. If anyone may ge offended, i am sorry for my lack of propper english :-)
As already postet th wording sounds kinda strange and unfitting. I woul word it this way: "Rather than paying ~ mana cost, you may choose to cast ~ without paying its mana cost. It ~ was cast this way, you lose the game after your next turn.
Take an extra turn after this one."
Not a fan of the artwork, but everyone has his own preferences. Other than that, you should look out for formating errors such as "trample" stuck into the P/T-box.
Buyback is a keyword that purely was used on instant or sorcery spells. Using it just for the sake of using it (and altering the way the keyword works) may be the wrong approach. -- Nonagon Infinity --
"Spirit of Decay" -- You could also use the shorter version of the 1st ability -- Like Akroma, Angel of Fury does. Other than that, imo the whole card is overloaded.
Nice concept. Nothing more to say ;-)
I realy dont like the used font -- Just personal preference. Yea, there are some sacrificial costs in some abilites. And this card could be used to pay that costs. But I would recommend you to read the challange one more time ;-)
Well... You just die.
Simple but functional. Me like.
Interresting concept, even if it is very specific an limited in the way it works.
Simple but functional. Me like.
Pretty interresting, but the rng factor could potentionaly kill you.
--@lackof --
An effect like that alters the game in such a way that the whole thing should be legendary.
Simple and skill-impressive.
New Key-Word. Could be very interresting to explore this one. :-)
Nothing much to say about that one. Works as intended. :-)
You may take some inspiration from Food Chain, but still -- generating mana isn't realy an alternative way of paying costs.
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Post by Daij_Djan on May 13, 2021 22:02:08 GMT
Buyback is a keyword that purely was used on instant or sorcery spells. Using it just for the sake of using it (and altering the way the keyword works) may be the wrong approach. Also Buyback would be an additional cost, not an alternative way of paying. Just saying ;-)
I'm always a massive fan of expanding an existing mechanic's design space (also WotC has expanded mechanics to other card types in the past as well, as well as there are several instences of mechanics differing slightly depending on the card type they're used on), so "using it for the sake of using it" is something I do rather frequently The point always is to make it work though - like f.e. previous to officially copies of permanent spells becoming tokens I would not have dared in this instence.
You are definitely right about Buyback being an additional cost though - that was intentional. Your challenge does in fact allow for them
EDIT: Read your original PM once again a minute ago. I'm really sorry, I misunderstood your wording to allow for them. So when cleaning up the wording, I made it even more part of the challenge (including adding an example link).. So I'm sorry, that error is on me (but at this point, I really can't change the challenge again this drastically either)  |
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Post by viriss on May 13, 2021 22:32:37 GMT
Time for a Whip
Disclaimer: It's just my own oppinion and I dont want to offend anyone. If anyone may ge offended, i am sorry for my lack of propper english :-)
As already postet th wording sounds kinda strange and unfitting. I woul word it this way: "Rather than paying ~ mana cost, you may choose to cast ~ without paying its mana cost. It ~ was cast this way, you lose the game after your next turn.
Take an extra turn after this one."
Not a fan of the artwork, but everyone has his own preferences. Other than that, you should look out for formating errors such as "trample" stuck into the P/T-box.
Buyback is a keyword that purely was used on instant or sorcery spells. Using it just for the sake of using it (and altering the way the keyword works) may be the wrong approach. Also Buyback would be an additional cost, not an alternative way of paying. Just saying ;-) -- Nonagon Infinity --
"Spirit of Decay" -- You could also use the shorter version of the 1st ability -- Like Akroma, Angel of Fury does. Other than that, imo the whole card is overloaded.
Nice concept. Nothing more to say ;-)
I realy dont like the used font -- Just personal preference. Yea, there are some sacrificial costs in some abilites. And this card could be used to pay that costs. But I would recommend you to read the challange one more time ;-)
Well... You just die.
Simple but functional. Me like.
Additional costs aren't alternative costs. Nice card tho.
Simple but functional. Me like.
Additional costs aren't alternative costs and the mana-gain doesn't realy count as an alternative way imo.
--@lackof --
An effect like that alters the game in such a way that the whole thing should be legendary.
Kicker costs are additional costs, not alternative costs.
New Key-Word. Could be very interresting to explore this one. :-)
Nothing much to say about that one. Works as intended. :-)
You may take some inspiration from Food Chain, but still -- generating mana isn't realy an alternative way of paying costs.
FYI, additional costs are the first example in the description, and the example is a kicker spell...  |
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Post by The Harlequin on May 13, 2021 22:52:18 GMT
Well it seams i did what i wasn't intended to do -- drama
cause of that -- i gonna fix my whip-post. sorry if anyone got confused or irritated by that.
tbh, additional costs weren't intended to be allowed -- and i never klicked on the examples linked in the challange cause i knew what i wanted. so it is a fail on my part that i didn't double-checked them. therefor, i fixed my post in that direction for also considering additional costs.
Daij_DjanWell at least i got it kicked in the face ;-) now i know that i have to change my criteria for the voting ;-) it's to late inti the contest to change it tho, so let it be as it is to not make it more confusing
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Post by spruder on May 14, 2021 3:34:44 GMT
Time for a Whip
Disclaimer: It's just my own oppinion and I dont want to offend anyone. If anyone may ge offended, i am sorry for my lack of propper english :-)
As already postet th wording sounds kinda strange and unfitting. I woul word it this way: "Rather than paying ~ mana cost, you may choose to cast ~ without paying its mana cost. It ~ was cast this way, you lose the game after your next turn.
Take an extra turn after this one."
Not a fan of the artwork, but everyone has his own preferences. Other than that, you should look out for formating errors such as "trample" stuck into the P/T-box.
Buyback is a keyword that purely was used on instant or sorcery spells. Using it just for the sake of using it (and altering the way the keyword works) may be the wrong approach. Also Buyback would be an additional cost, not an alternative way of paying. Just saying ;-) -- Nonagon Infinity --
"Spirit of Decay" -- You could also use the shorter version of the 1st ability -- Like Akroma, Angel of Fury does. Other than that, imo the whole card is overloaded.
Nice concept. Nothing more to say ;-)
I realy dont like the used font -- Just personal preference. Yea, there are some sacrificial costs in some abilites. And this card could be used to pay that costs. But I would recommend you to read the challange one more time ;-)
Well... You just die.
Simple but functional. Me like.
Additional costs aren't alternative costs. Nice card tho.
Simple but functional. Me like.
Additional costs aren't alternative costs and the mana-gain doesn't realy count as an alternative way imo.
--@lackof --
An effect like that alters the game in such a way that the whole thing should be legendary.
Kicker costs are additional costs, not alternative costs.
New Key-Word. Could be very interresting to explore this one. :-)
Nothing much to say about that one. Works as intended. :-)
You may take some inspiration from Food Chain, but still -- generating mana isn't realy an alternative way of paying costs.
I only use the Japanese M8 template because my M15 template doesn't do italics for the flavor text for whatever reason. Sorry about the font it uses. As for contest rules, I though the premise was to circumvent some part of a spell or abilities cost which I think mine does? Sorry if I misunderstood the prompt. |
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Post by The Harlequin on May 14, 2021 11:35:48 GMT
You cound try to reinstall the whole package again -- worked for me.
If you understood the challange in this way it is fine by me -- Who am i to judge your interpretation ;-)
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Post by spruder on May 14, 2021 22:27:52 GMT
You cound try to reinstall the whole package again -- worked for me.
If you understood the challange in this way it is fine by me -- Who am i to judge your interpretation ;-)
Haha yeah, glad it's an everyone votes format. I'll try reinstalling package but I've reinstalled the whole program from scratch before to no avail. |
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Post by Tesagk on May 15, 2021 0:55:24 GMT
You may take some inspiration from Food Chain, but still -- generating mana isn't realy an alternative way of paying costs.
The card I'd be much more interested in is the one that talks about color pips in a card's casting cost being recognized in paying a casting cost. That being said, I did change the card enough that it now no longer technically uses mana as the alternate cost, while still being thematically the same (sacrifice a creature, get a card) which I believe is well within the spirit of the challenge. |
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: The next instant or sorcery you cast may be cast by sacrificing a creature and paying the difference in mana costs between this and the sacrificed creature. Mana cost includes color.
