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Post by Idea on Apr 2, 2023 0:21:33 GMT
You can just have "when you cycle," no need for the instead. The "when" will go on top of the cycling, so you'll scry 3 before the draw by default. Oh is that the case? Well, then new version:
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Post by vizionarius on Apr 2, 2023 0:43:51 GMT
Idea, just "When you cycle ~, scry 3." is all you need.
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Post by melono on Apr 5, 2023 15:15:53 GMT
Krosan Steelfeathered Creature - Bird Flying Cycling ( , Discard this card: Draw a card.) When you cycle ~, you may search your library for an Aura card with mana value 1, reveal that card, put it into your hand, then shuffle. ( Do this before you draw.) 4/5
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Post by Flo00 on Apr 7, 2023 22:37:51 GMT
Krosan Tusker cycles for Sprouting Vines without storm. So let's make something that cycles for Temporal Fissure without storm: Aven Windshaper Creature - Bird Wizard Flying Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)When you cycle Aven Windshaper, return target permanent to its owner’s hand. 3/2
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Apr 7, 2023 22:44:49 GMT
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Post by vizionarius on Apr 10, 2023 16:50:51 GMT
Judging on Wednesday.
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Post by vizionarius on Apr 12, 2023 22:19:15 GMT
FeedbackIdea : I like the effect! It's strong, but I don't think its broken at all ( see similar cards). It being tied to cycling means it can't be easily countered, but also means that it can't be easily copied, and it doesn't count toward storm and doesn't proc prowess. Overall, a very good and solid design! I will most likely be cycling this one 80% of the time, but the option for a 1/3 for 2-mana and relevant creature types makes it not an auto-cycle. Scary flavor text! It does deviate a little from the "high cost late game beater or low-cost early spell" of the original, but I'm OK with it. melono : Takes the original's "high cost late game beater or low-cost early spell" template. It also does in what the original does in , namely search, but for the appropriate type for . Nice way to limit the mana cost, though I feel that 1 may be a little too low. It would be nice to be able to get these with it in a block draft! Flo00 : That's a really great realization that that's the effect it has! Even matches the cost of the spell! I really like this! I love it when cards refer to their contemporaries, and you do that excellently here! Making it a Bird Wizard to go with Onslaught's supported tribes is a sweet bonus too! I think this is as close to perfect for this cycle as you can get. ZephyrPhantom : I like cycling effect here, though it feels a little too strong (maybe if it did less damage or only to a creature). There were also no common (or even uncommon) Dragons in the Onslaught block, so the flavor for the cycle is a little off for me. Maybe as a Goblin or Beast, or a Bird? ResultThe winner is Flo00 with a really neat design that fits into what a cycle around Krosan Tusker would be like.
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Post by Flo00 on Apr 13, 2023 18:04:59 GMT
Thanks for the win and the kind words vizionarius! I started out by looking up what other cards had that effect and was surprised that there are only three others. From there I pondered which common onsought storm spell would make the most interesting cycling ability. Next card to cycle around: Tibalt's Trickery
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Post by Idea on Apr 13, 2023 19:16:45 GMT
Note: I figured I'd explain my reasoning here. In my view this cycle was a 2-mana rare instant cycle (or 2-mana red cycle of different rarities) which either would all cards have counter + an extra effect or a nonstandard effect for the color + an effect that pseudo-nullifies what you just did (in the original the countered spell's controller gets a new free spell, in my case they get to copy a creature). I hope my having an opponent choose from a range of creatures to potentially copy isn't too confusing, as I needed a way to reign in the potential abuses with this card at two mana.
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Post by fluffydeathbringer on Apr 13, 2023 21:02:28 GMT
Norn's Verdict Instant Exile target permanent you don't control. Choose 1, 2, or 3 at random. That permanent's controller draws that many cards. "Explain? My reasoning is a privilege you have not earned. Your worth is mine to determine. Be grateful you have any at all."
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moweda
3/3 Beast
Posts: 164
Favorite Card: Psychic Vortex
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by moweda on Apr 14, 2023 16:44:51 GMT
Elspeth's Eradication Sorcery Choose 1, 2, or 3 at random. Each player chooses that number of creatures they control. Then, destroy all other creatures.
Its a little loose for a cycle with different cost and spell type. But I think the essence of the cycle needs to be around "choose 1, 2, or 3 at random" preventing total planning for a powerful effect.
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Post by Idea on Apr 29, 2023 3:12:41 GMT
Friendly reminder to Flo00
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Post by Flo00 on May 2, 2023 16:26:10 GMT
Sorry for the delay. moweda wins. Full judging maybe sometime later.
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moweda
3/3 Beast
Posts: 164
Favorite Card: Psychic Vortex
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by moweda on May 3, 2023 22:40:56 GMT
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Post by Idea on May 4, 2023 0:02:50 GMT
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Post by SilentKobold on May 8, 2023 2:16:46 GMT
Warren Sapper Creature - Goblin Warrior , Tap two untapped warriors you control: Each player discards their hand and draws 2 cards. Activate only as a sorcery. 2/2 {Render}
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moweda
3/3 Beast
Posts: 164
Favorite Card: Psychic Vortex
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by moweda on May 12, 2023 18:05:01 GMT
Judging in about 48 hours. Get your entries in now!
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moweda
3/3 Beast
Posts: 164
Favorite Card: Psychic Vortex
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by moweda on May 15, 2023 14:51:33 GMT
Idea Rotsap Fletcher This is a cool, original effect. Menace/deathtouch is a very aggressive, black combination of effects perfect for Rogues. I almost think that the mill punishment could be higher than 2 just because it seems likely that opponents will eat the damage unless they have some serious chumps out. I really love the art, it ties the card flavor together so well. SilentKobold Warren Sapper First off, serious props for the references on this card name- mixing old school Goblin Sappers with one of the greatest defensive linemen of all time was just *chef's kiss*. I really love the mild Wheel of Fortune effect here, but it seems mildly off-flavor for Warriors? It looks like other creatures with Wheel effects tend to be Wizards or Rogues. I would be ok with that if Goblin Sapper was a Warrior but it doesn't have a class. Mechanically, it feels like a proper red counterpart to Sigil Tracer. Tough call here! Both of these are original cards with interesting effects. Great job by both of you! Sigil Tracer is obviously pretty powerful. I feel like ultimately SilentKobold's submission matches that power level a little more closely and therefore they are the winner!
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Post by SilentKobold on May 15, 2023 19:41:32 GMT
Thanks for the win. Next up: Death's Caress
Bonus points if it hates on the colour's enemy tribe on Innistrad: Vampires Werewolves Spirits Zombies
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Post by Idea on May 15, 2023 21:07:01 GMT
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thaneofglamis
8/8 Octopus
Thane's activated abilities can't be activated
Posts: 444
Favorite Card: Slimefoot, the Stowaway; Phyrexian Rager; Swarm Shambler
Favorite Set: Midnight Hunt
Color Alignment: Green
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Post by thaneofglamis on May 26, 2023 0:25:53 GMT
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Post by Flo00 on Jun 1, 2023 14:54:49 GMT
Alchemical Arrows Sorcery ~ deals 4 damage to target creature. If that creature is a Spirit, you may discard up to two cards, then draw that many cards.
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Post by vizionarius on Jun 16, 2023 23:54:54 GMT
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Post by SilentKobold on Jun 24, 2023 0:43:16 GMT
Judging is up: Idea – Nice flavor, and I love the potential to prevent a transformed werewolf flipping back. However as a sorcery it does pose certain memory problems with it’s permanent effect and would work much better as an aura. The CMC restriction also seems pretty irrelevant in its standard and limited environment. Overall, I like the more unique take on blue removal even if it is a bit rough around the edges. thaneofglamis – In a block full of notable anthems at lower rarities this fits right in and I like the creative flavor that doesn’t resort to typical vampire weaknesses. While the cost seems reasonably fair, I do feel the blowout against limited vampire decks is a little too high for a common in a tribal format. Overall, a good fit into DKA and certainly a threat I would not want to be on the other end of. Flo00 – This seems like a fair damage rate for the cost though it does compete with Wrack with Madness in the 4 CMC burn slot. The flavor hits well and the extra flashback support is a nice bonus in limited if a spirit player is cutting you on blue. Overall, a seamless fit into DKA. vizionarius – With it’s introduction in Innistrad, another follow up on the fight mechanic would fit right into DKA. While a powerful pump spell into a format with infect and boggles should be approached with caution; the high CMC should prevent it from getting out of hand. The flavour does leave a little to be desired in why it hates on zombies in particular. Overall, I like the good support it lends to it’s environment and a well placed piece of art could be a quick fix for flavour issues. Great entries all round this challenge with the winning edge going to Flo00 and vizionarius running up.
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Post by Idea on Jun 26, 2023 11:33:12 GMT
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Post by SilentKobold on Jun 27, 2023 10:49:36 GMT
To an extent yes, but not at common. I suspect this is partly due to limited environments, given the card pools are far less familiar than decklists and players are more likely to be playing unsleeved so cards are more likely to accidentally mix after a game. Your link seems to have the wrong target (referencing this thread) so you could easily be referencing something I've missed. However a quick search on Scryfall seems to only pull up Act of Treason style effects at common as memory issues are far less important when confined to a single turn.
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Post by Idea on Jun 27, 2023 12:43:45 GMT
To an extent yes, but not at common. I suspect this is partly due to limited environments, given the card pools are far less familiar than decklists and players are more likely to be playing unsleeved so cards are more likely to accidentally mix after a game. Your link seems to have the wrong target (referencing this thread) so you could easily be referencing something I've missed. However a quick search on Scryfall seems to only pull up Act of Treason style effects at common as memory issues are far less important when confined to a single turn. You're right, I've got no idea why the link ended up like that. Here a proper version of what I think I had. You're also right that, other than something like the red acts of treason or Ghazban Ogre, you don't really seem to see it in common, so fair criticism. Though some of those symbols just look so black you wouldn't know they are actually supposed to be rare or uncommon.
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Post by Flo00 on Jun 27, 2023 17:15:22 GMT
Thanks for the win SilentKobold. I didn't even think of flashback when I made this, but it makes totally sense X) Next up: Incite InsightHave fun!
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Post by vizionarius on Jun 27, 2023 18:19:11 GMT
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Post by Idea on Jun 28, 2023 3:16:12 GMT
I'm not certain about the templating, or if indeed the effect could be worded at all, but silver border gives some leeway.
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