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Post by Idea on Dec 8, 2022 23:05:12 GMT
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Dec 18, 2022 14:28:27 GMT
It's been about 2 weeks but I can't find a good time to judge this right now so you guys have about 1-3 days until I judge.
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Dec 20, 2022 8:11:21 GMT
vizionarius - A good PW that functions on its own and supports Relentless Rats well without being overly focused on it. I think it's neat that you'd be happy to see this in draft even without a single Relentless Rat drafted. Set-ready. Flo00 - Very funny flavor, feels like it toes the line into silver border territory with the acknowledgement of a fan meme setup. The idea of returning Storm Crows from exile is very interesting though, perhaps some synergy with Delve or various impulse draw exiling type things there? In general I think it's interesting in how this nudges you towards thinking what cards would really make or break this Ashiok without being too powerful or rule breaking in a vacuum, though I'm not sure if they're particularly strong without it in a satisfying way. twintania - Not sure how I feel about pure drawing as part of an ultimate but you can get away with a lot at that level of expense so I won't be too hard on it (though if this was actually WoTC they would definitely change it to impulse draw or rummage/looting). I do like how Incinerate substitutes for the 2nd loyalty ability and makes you think about flashback-based things to make use of the ones you put in the graveyard (if you don't plan on using the 1st ability), though, and the cost of this efficient engine is that all Jaya is doing is focusing on Incinerate and nothing else. Idea - Hmmm, mixed feelings on this one. You basically went in the other direction and created a card that expects to be run with as many copies of the chosen common(s) as possible, though given that they are common cards that could easily slot into any set and that you listed two (means 8x copies) it's probably more reasonable than it looks at first glance. Unlike the other entries this means that this setup wants to do one very specific thing - be part of a WX control package, and I do think it does it very well in that sense, encouraging you to take a second look at cards you might have passed up otherwise (as opposed to a card that is well known or easily played in most Standards) while leaving you to figure out what the other parts of the deck will be. It definitely captures someone doing all sorts of fancy sword strikes well, though, which I like a lot. It probably needs a lot of playtesting and tweaking, and is very contrary to how typical PWs work, but at the same time it demonstrates a very different idea well and makes good use of the card type given to it. We had some tough competition but I think I like Idea 's idea the most. It was a risky design and probably needs some adjustments, but at the same time I feel like it's a lot easier to make PWs that incidentally work well with their synergized card - it's a lot harder to make a PW or even just a card that focuses around other named cards and make it look good and interesting to think about. The atypical use of the PW abilities and casting for free to capture swordfighting is very inspired and I think it's worth highlighting. Runner up is vizionarius is a well rounded design that looks like it could be printed on the spot.
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Post by Idea on Dec 21, 2022 0:45:59 GMT
Thanks for the win ZephyrPhantom! I'm curious to see what people will come up with if I ask to make a cycle around target minotaur. Rule: Your card can't be target minotaur. |
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Post by twintania on Dec 23, 2022 0:31:37 GMT
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Post by vizionarius on Dec 23, 2022 8:57:29 GMT
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Post by Idea on Dec 23, 2022 9:09:20 GMT
I'm not 100% sure what this is referencing, may I ask what card/cards you had in mind? |
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Post by vizionarius on Dec 23, 2022 10:04:15 GMT
I'm not 100% sure what this is referencing, may I ask what card/cards you had in mind? It's a reference to the original art of Swords to Plowshares, with a bit of Righteousness effect. As opposed to having a soldier retire and become a farmer, it takes the idea that a retired soldier is asked to fight yet again... at any and all times of the year, as depicted by the 4 seasons in the card arts, which is what I took your cycle to mean. |
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Post by Idea on Jan 2, 2023 21:54:26 GMT
Not a ton of entries so far, but since it was the holidays, I will give it a few more days before judging.
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Post by collex on Jan 3, 2023 20:46:43 GMT
Hey guys! I'm back for a while, and I had an idea for the challenge. Simple, but effective I think:     I hope this fits the challenge. [Edit: Cleaned up the wording on the ability to remove the double "ma." Also corrected the flavor text on the fourth version (Thanks Flo00 !)] |
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Post by Flo00 on Jan 4, 2023 10:09:42 GMT
Shouldn't the flavor be said my Magneto? |
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Post by Idea on Jan 6, 2023 12:19:35 GMT
Alright, I will be judging this afternoon or tomorrow!
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Post by Idea on Jan 8, 2023 2:46:29 GMT
twintania{Spoiler}Good choice for the name! The effect is simple and neat, not even sure if would need to cost 2 for that much, but no foul either. I do wish the effects interacted
a bit more with the term it's referencing though. vizionarius{Spoiler}A cross between Righteousness and Furious Resistance is really not the kind of thing I could have thought would be balanced, if those cards weren't a thing. Still, they are, so I guess this card works even if it's a little pushed and I probably would've raised the cost by  .I like the way it plays on the existing magic card but I think there is a bit of a flavor fail here. If you know the card it's taking inspiration from then you know the other creature is probably not coming back, so this doesn't make a lot of sense as a sequel to it. On the other hand if you don't know the other card then this one doesn't allude to it much, nor does a big boost like +5/+5 really fit typical white recruits (1/1 soldiers). I also don't find it super fitting for the challenge since it's referencing an individual card rather than a common term. {Spoiler}Love it. It's really fitting for the challenge, yet the play on words here also makes for super fitting flavor. The two effects also reinforce the flavor really well, making the enemy always able to come back, being menacing, and even hurting your actual opponent if you hurt "An Opponent". Also while recurring is strong, the cost, stats and being third from the top I feel are things which come together well to make the card balanced and not annoying to deal with. Winner {Spoiler}Victory on this round goes to collex , with twintania as the runnerup.
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Post by twintania on Jan 8, 2023 20:19:53 GMT
twintania Good choice for the name! The effect is simple and neat, not even sure if would need to cost 2 for that much, but no foul either. I do wish the effects interacted a bit more with the term it's referencing though. I had considered more relational ability but I decided to let it have no relationship with its flavor since target minotaur's flavor has nothing to do with its ability. I saw the cycle as common cards with a confusing name, simple and non-unplayable spec, and flavor has nothing to do with its ability. I doubt I can keep to remember it though, I try to consult this result and stop copying the lack of interestingness of the original card on the next time you judge the cycle game. |
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Post by Idea on Jan 8, 2023 20:30:09 GMT
twintania Good choice for the name! The effect is simple and neat, not even sure if would need to cost 2 for that much, but no foul either. I do wish the effects interacted a bit more with the term it's referencing though. I had considered more relational ability but I decided to let it have no relationship with its flavor since target minotaur's flavor has nothing to do with its ability. I saw the cycle as common cards with a confusing name, simple and non-unplayable spec, and flavor has nothing to do with its ability. I doubt I can keep to remember it though, I try to consult this result and stop copying the lack of interestingness of the original card on the next time you judge the cycle game. The card's effect is "prowess" which is a mechanic which triggers when you target the card. This is consistent with the concept the name "target minotaur" and works with flavor because the card depicted is a minotaur that gets targeted with stuff all the time and this mechanic actively encourages targeting it. |
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Post by collex on Jan 9, 2023 3:59:03 GMT
Thank you for the win! For the next challenge, please take a look at this mess: scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=splicer+set%3AnphWhite has one vertical cycle, Green has one incomplete vertical cycle, Blue has one card, and Red and Black get nothing. Since we're going back to Phyrexia next month, let's take this opportunity to fix that, shall we? For your next challenge, you must fill in the gaps in the Splicer cycle(s). You can do so by completing an incomplete cycle, or by creating one of the missing one. Making a Mythic for the White cycle is also an option. I haven't issued a cycle challenge before, so let me know if that does not work as a challenge. Good luck! |
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Post by collex on Jan 10, 2023 18:42:33 GMT
It seems that editing my post with the challenge instead of adding a new post kind of buried the thread, so let me bump it up. Sorry for that!
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Post by vizionarius on Jan 10, 2023 22:28:13 GMT
Blight Splicer   Creature — Phyrexian Human Artificer  When ~ enters the battlefield, create a 3/3 colorless Phyrexian Golem artifact creature token. Golem creatures you control have menace. 1/1
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Post by Idea on Jan 11, 2023 0:44:13 GMT
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Post by twintania on Jan 11, 2023 14:11:04 GMT
I saw the original cycle as below: White is the most splicery color. So it has three splicers. Its friendly colors also have splicers but less than white has. And red and black have no splicer since they are enemies of white. What this cycle is lacking is the disparity in enemy colors. Green has two splicers and blue has one. So, an enemy color should have zero and another should have minus one, in the same way. Red is a friendly color of green, which is more splicery among white's friends so zero is red. Then, how black could have minus one splicer? My answer is to have a splicer with negative splicing ability.  |
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Post by Flo00 on Jan 21, 2023 22:37:28 GMT
Muscle Splicer  Creature - Phyrexian Artificer  When Muscle Splicer enters the battlefield, create a 3/3 colorless Phyrexian Golem artifact creature token.  : Put a +1/+1 counter on each Golem you control. 1/1 |
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Post by collex on Feb 2, 2023 0:34:52 GMT
Alright, will judge this in 24h, grt your entries in!
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Bouncearama
3/3 Beast
Posts: 174
Formerly Known As: pistonsmcgraw
Favorite Card: Davriel, Soul Broker
Favorite Set: Unstable
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by Bouncearama on Feb 3, 2023 0:08:25 GMT
Flame Splicer   Creature - Goblin Artificer When ~ enters the battlefield, create a 3/3 colorless Phyrexian Golem artifact creature token. Whenever a golem you control attacks, ~ deals 1 damage to the player or planeswalker that creature is attacking. 1/1
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Feb 3, 2023 1:58:00 GMT
Pretty hard to compete with some of the entries here so I'm going to try something relatively bold: Liberation Smither Creature - Human Rebel Artificer When Liberation Smither enters the battlefield, create a 3/3 colorless Phyrexian Golem artifact creature token. Golems you control have haste. 1/1 "No, I don't like the big red rotter, but I'll work with anyone who wants to tear apart this Phyrexian hell."The Uncommon cycle of Master Splicer, Vital Splicer, and Wing Splicer were all 3M creatures that generated a single golem and gave a boost that was iconic in their color. This seemed like a good opportunity to add one more while giving it an interesting flavor twist, and being a Rebel helps add some more backwards compatibility between the current Mirran rebels (which usually want creatures to equip) and their Cho-Arrim predecessors (which usually want to tutor creatures out of the deck). |
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Post by collex on Feb 3, 2023 2:10:51 GMT
Alright, judging time! vizionarius : {Spoiler}Very nice, fits the challenge nicely. Good idea to make use of a keyword that didn't exist when the original splicers were made. Idea {Spoiler}Interesting take on a mythic white splicer. I love how he feels like a boss version of all the other one, and that last ability is a great "ultimate" version of a splicer. My only problem is that Persist seems superfluous. It doesn't really fit the rest fo the cycle, and makes the card busier than necessary, IMO. twintania {Spoiler}I do like the out of the box thinking. At first I wasn't sure what the card was supposed to be useful for, but then I understood - it's great in a aritocrat deck. Make two 1/1, sac one for an effect, get a bonus 3/3. In fact, it might be a little too easible breakable.But it is a very original idea. Flo00 {Spoiler}I see where you are going for, but it feels less like a green splicer and more like just a strictly better version of White's Master Splicer. Love the name though! Bouncearama {Spoiler}I like this design very much, but I think it is undercosted for an uncommon. It should be at least 3R, or bumped up to rare. {Winner}Giving the win to twintania for the out-of-the-box thinking and a very elnticular Johnny design. Runner-up is vizionarius for a clean, elegant design. [/spoiler] |
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Post by twintania on Feb 3, 2023 4:28:36 GMT
Thx for the win. Just as you say, it is a bit bumped card. Some excuses, for example it is serious if you draw it at middle or end game in limited, or there's a risk that you can't play second copy of it if you couldn't draw a sacrifice device in your opening hand etc, allowed me to submit it. The next challenge is You Are Already Dead. This is a phrase from a Japanese old manga, Fist of the North Star. I want to see the phrase cycle is completed. But I don't hope to refuse people who aren't familiar with manga. It is true that manga phrases have some advantage in my judge, but your card's phrase is not necessarily from manga. knowyourmeme.com/memes/you-are-already-dead-omae-wa-mou-shindeiru |
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Post by Idea on Feb 3, 2023 7:25:18 GMT
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Feb 3, 2023 18:05:59 GMT
I assume we might re-judge but I like this idea enough to want to post it still: You Killed My Father  Sorcery  Cast ~ only if a creature you control died this turn. Destroy target tapped creature you don't control that has dealt damage this turn. "Prepare to die!"Luke Skywalker or Inigo Montoya, depending on who you want it to be. |
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Post by Flo00 on Feb 4, 2023 22:46:11 GMT
 Momantai Instant Tap target creature. Its controller gains 3 life. Draw a card. Its Cantonese for Hakuna Matata. |
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Post by collex on Feb 5, 2023 5:55:50 GMT
I didn't forget, It just wasn't up when I was judging.  See, it took me a good 15-20 minutes to write up everything, so ZephyrPhantom posted in between me starting my post and me posting it. So I never saw it! For what it is, I do really like it! Sorry the timing didn't work out, ZephyrPhantom |
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See, it took me a good 15-20 minutes to write up everything, so ZephyrPhantom posted in between me starting my post and me posting it. So I never saw it!