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Post by Fleur on May 10, 2018 13:40:00 GMT
Judging tomorrow. Get your last entries in!
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Akai Ryu
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 63
Favorite Card: Arcbound Ravager
Color Alignment: Colorless
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Post by Akai Ryu on May 10, 2018 14:14:19 GMT
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Post by Daij_Djan on May 10, 2018 22:17:43 GMT
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Post by gateways7 on May 11, 2018 3:33:39 GMT
Interface Sorcery Improvise from noncreatures (Your noncreature artifacts can help you cast this spell. This costs less to cast for each noncreature artifact you tap as you cast it.) Sacrifice all artifacts you tapped to cast Interface, then create that many artifact tokens with all subtypes and rules text of the sacrificed cards. Now, if we simply overlay these two sections, you can see an immediate increase in production! - Avaati Kya, Kaladeshi Inventor
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 11:36:15 GMT
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Post by Fleur on May 12, 2018 16:04:38 GMT
{Behind the scenes}Lily: I think it's a good idea to judge now, perhaps? Lily reaches out for the keyboard, only to be interrupted. Ironclad, from within Lily's head: Let me judge! LET ME JUDGE. Lily concedes control to Ironclad. Ironclad: YOU ARE BEING JUDGED. PREPARE TO MEET YOUR DOOM. Lily: Yeah, what he said. {You are being judged by Lily and IRONCLAD} {canterburyegg}IRONCLAD: Let us take a look at this first card, Gutwrench. Lily: This reminds me of that 1B removal spell that gives -3/-3, except it's a bit more situational, trading a bit of general efficiency for solid upside. The upside is cute and it reminds me of that one forum post I saw about that weird Lorwyn spin-off. IRONCLAD: This reminds me of Twin Strike - a fairly good card that gains a lot of value in some contexts, but that you'd be happy to draft nonetheless. Lily: Ironclad, you're not on a Slay the Spire forum. Try speaking in English terms. IRONCLAD: Whatever. I think this is a pretty good card if you ask me. I'll give it a A-. Better than anything Lily could make, anyways. {digiman619}IRONCLAD: Ugh, it smells like dead people and disease. Lily: Well, there's a reason the card is called Epidemic. It's literally a disease that kills people, Ironclad. IRONCLAD: This is clever, benefiting from sacrificing your own creatures. Sounds like something I would do. Lily: It's pretty clever, yeah. Definitely flavorful getting the plague to spread through other creatures. Grade A for me. Would you agree, Ironclad? Ironclad covers his nose and nods in agreement. {viriss}Lily: Gosh, it's dark in here. Mind using your firebreathing, Ironclad? A jet of flame manifests from seemingly nowhere, revealing a very angry shade named Umbra. Lily: Thank you, Ironclad. Now, I think Wither to x is interesting. However, this is too powerful. IRONCLAD: This is like Dread Shade, except it has a lot of relevant upside. Dare I say, too much power, even by my standards. Lily: I concur. C+ for me. And you? Ironclad concurs. {Casstastrophe}IRONCLAD: Well, that's scary. Almost as bad as The Maw. Lily: I've seen worse on dA while trying to search for art. What do you think, Ironclad? IRONCLAD: That's a lot of killing. I know you can get efficient stuff like Skaab Goliath if you exile creatures from your graveyard, but how efficient, Lily? Is this too efficient? Lily: Skaab Goliath is around seven mana worth of value for six. This is around uh, six mana for what would be five mana? IRONCLAD considers talking about the mana system in Slay the Spire, but decides against it. IRONCLAD: Should be fine. It's not going to be too problematic at rare I don't think. It's a B+ for me. Lily: Nay, I'd say B. I'm a bit unsure but it should be fine. Still sticking to B as the final grade. IRONCLAD nods in concession.{kinotherapy}Lily: I think we should give him company, no? IRONCLAD: I think he wants to be alone. Lily: Alright. Let's do this from a distance. IRONCLAD: I think 4/3 for 2 is very powerful. Too powerful, perhaps. It would be tantamount to encountering Chosen in Act I. Lily: Do you not think the aversion is enough of a downside, Ironclad? IRONCLAD: Actually... Demonic Taskmaster is somewhat similar in downside. They have upsides and downsides compared to one another. Maybe this is fine. Lily: But it would be better at ? IRONCLAD and Lily: Yes. B+ for me, because this flavor really hits home for me. {Fermat}IRONCLAD: Well, I'm sad now. Lily: There's a reason it's called Anguish. IRONCLAD: Emerge from enchantments is cute. Honestly, I think that could be a mechanic for gods if there was enough colored mana rewarding the devotion of a single enchantment. Lily: The card itself seems playable too. It's like Doomwake Giant, except not. IRONCLAD: The ability to remove it easily enough balances it somewhat I think. Lily: Yes, yes it does. A? IRONCLAD: Yes. {nonrech}Lily: I... I don't think this letter is meant for us. IRONCLAD: I think that has something to do with the fact that we're human. Lily: That restriction doesn't make sense. Why wouldn't a Human be able to commit blackmail? IRONCLAD: A more sensical restriction would be in order, I think. Maybe making it cheaper for Rogues or Advisors to equip. Lily and IRONCLAD: Ugh, bureaucrats. Lily: That's a C-. The restriction feels added just to fulfill the limit in this challenge. IRONCLAD: Agreed. {voltaic-qui}IRONCLAD: Reminds me of standard all-star Death Wind. Lily: That was never a standard all-star, Ironclad. IRONCLAD: Anyways I like this. Lily: I like it too. A-? IRONCLAD: Yes. By the way Lily, that was sarcasm. Lily: Sure it was. {Gorgonzola}Lily: This card bugs me. I never liked bugs. IRONCLAD: Then you should let me take over judging. Lily: Okay, but just this one time. You better not screw this up, Ironclad. IRONCLAD: Given my limited knowledge of Magic the Gathering, I think this might be able to be , but it would vary greatly based on the environment. One other Insect is needed to hit the baseline. After one Insect, this becomes solid. I think this is okay, though, given the fact that most Insects are a bit pricey. Lily, can you come help give a final grade now? Lily: That's an A- for me. Storm for a specific type is creative. {Oddanref}Lily: I'm not sure if this works... I think it does, though? I don't know. IRONCLAD: Even if it did though, we'd need to consider the identity of black. Lily: Yeah, I don't think black can just indiscriminately pump creatures like that. IRONCLAD: That would be like me gaining access to Well-Laid Plans, or like me getting access to Backflip. If only. Lily: You've made your message clear. Dubiousness in color pie means this is probably a C-. IRONCLAD: Mm.
{Flo00}IRONCLAD: This seems questionable. Lily: That took me a little bit of time to parse. IRONCLAD: That's fine and all, just not at common. Lily: I agree. I think it might be balanced. IRONCLAD: Could be abused, though. Lily: Interesting idea, wrong rarity, B-? IRONCLAD: Yup.
{shiftyhomunculus}IRONCLAD: I swear there's a guy with this same name on reddit. Lily: That's because there is, Ironclad. IRONCLAD: This is a nice design I think, though. Lily: That I can agree with. I think this is costed well. Convoke for specific creatures is cute too. IRONCLAD: Reminds me of the cultists and The Ancient One, yes? Lily: Yes, I get those vibes too. IRONCLAD: This is an A for me. Lily: An A it is.
{shrimper}Lily: Well, that's macabre. And a nostalgia trip. IRONCLAD: I wish it did a bit more, to be honest. It's a giant ball of stats with a bunch of loopholes to jump. Lily: Just a keyword of evasion away from being cool... IRONCLAD: It's a nice start, though. Lily: That we can agree on. IRONCLAD: That's a B then - good idea with a slightly bland execution.
{Wolgherstol}IRONCLAD: Oof, that's a ghost. Lily: I wish the spirit type was used instead - that's more supported and less parasitic while conveying the same flavor. IRONCLAD: If only. Also, I'm a budget player and this makes me mildly sad. I don't think it's healthy that a card punishes basic lands, which are already usually replaced by nonbasic lands. It's bad design, in my opinion. Lily: I'd say "it's just your opinion, man", but you have a point, Ironclad. Especially not at one mana. IRONCLAD: C+? Lily: Yes.
{Daij_Djan}Lily: Reminds me of Golden Demise. IRONCLAD: Maybe this could be stronger? Lily: I don't know, the ability to cast this at instant speed is pretty good. IRONCLAD: Maybe the regular cost could be and the track cost could be ? Lily: Maybe. Still, it depends on the limited environment. By the way, Ironclad, you should try draft - I think you would like it. IRONCLAD: Yeah, perhaps. B+ in my books. Lily: Definitely. {gateways7}Lily: Well. That's. Quite. Wild. IRONCLAD: It is. Lily: I think this might be just a bit too crazy with artifact tokens being used to spawn multiple copies of some powerful artifacts. IRONCLAD: Haven't played combo before - I'm more of a stompy dude. This sounds scary. Lily: Might be. Still, it's a cool idea that I'm quite concerned about. I also find it strange how this does nothing without convoking. IRONCLAD: Strange perhaps, but understandable. B-, Lily? Lily: Yeah. {Winner}digiman619 wins, with Fermat and shiftyhomunculus as runners-up in no particular order.
If this judging style is liked, I might do it more often.
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oddnanref
3/3 Beast
Am I squirrel yet?
Posts: 198
Formerly Known As: Destiny, or full of yourself
Favorite Card: The one that is red and white all over
Favorite Set: The one with the new cool things
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Red
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Post by oddnanref on May 12, 2018 23:05:46 GMT
It is a black green sorcery. 999 cards that mention +1/+1 counters. Here440 are green, 230 are Black, 201 are white, 185 are red, 121 are blue, with overlap. A search for cards in two specific colors. 201 are in Izzet, 231 in Azorious, 245 in Dimir, 279 in Boros, 311 in Rakdos, 324 in Orzhov, 433 in Simic, 484 in Gruul, 511 in Selesnya, 526 in Golgari. 362 are Jeskai, 393 are Grixis, 407 are Esper, 471 are Mardu, 584 are Temur, 613 are Bant, 625 are Sultai, 663 are Naya, 689 are Jund, 707 are Abzan 561 Greenless, 771 Blackless, 798 Whiteless, 816 Redless, 880 Blueless Green contributing to 43.84% of all instances of +1/+1 counters. Black contributing to 22.82% White to 20.12% Red to 18.31% Blue to 11.91% Golgariless which is basically Jeskai, form 36.24% of the cards that mention +1/+1 counters. Meaning that 63.76% of cards mentioning +1/+1 counters are either green or black. Taking green's contribution we have that black alone contributes to 19.92% of the +1/+1 counters in cards. Selesnyaless which is basically Grixis, forms 39.34% Meaning that 60.66% of cards mentioning +1/+1 counters are either green or white. Taking green's contribution out, we have that white alone contributes to 16.82%. Green is king at +1/+1 counters, but black itself has a higher contribution than white alone, and the other two colors (counting RG and UG). So Black is undisputed second in +1/+1 counters. The card I made is Green and black the two colors that care the most about +1/+1 counters. I can understand a low rating for confusion, and how complicated the card was. However, dubiousness of the color pie? Really? While making this card I was thinking of Golgari and Abzan. Two groups that care about +1/+1 counters. I just disagree with that statement. Question its complexity, if it even works, but one thing I am for sure is that there is no dubiousness on the color pie.
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Post by shiftyhomunculus on May 12, 2018 23:31:03 GMT
These figures don't mean anything without context. Black mostly puts counters on its creatures by sacrificing other permanents or by profiting off losses somehow ( Mausoleum Harpy, Kazarov); it's far less common for black to be able to make creatures, especially multiple creatures, bigger in a vacuum outside specific set themes. The card's not strictly a break, but I do agree that it's far more green than it is black, and, when there's only one mana symbol involved, I don't think the somewhat tenuous presence of this ability in black justifies the hybrid.
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Post by Fleur on May 12, 2018 23:35:54 GMT
@oddnaref: It is black-green, yes, but it is black-green hybrid. What this means is that it must function as though it were monoblack and monogreen. This works fine in monogreen, if not being a bit strong. However, if one examines all the cards in monoblack that put counters on other creatures, most of them either proc on black triggers (such as sacrifice or vampire-esque "on combat damage" triggers), are tribal (which every color can obtain) or were part of a cycle. There are a number of exceptions that I will go over. - Subtle Strike does this, but it does not do it efficiently. It also exists to tie together a +1/+1 counter archetype. - Lawless Broker does this too, but it also exists to tie together the +1/+1 counter archetype mentioned above. - Scavenge does this, but it is based on dead things and also exists to tie green and black together. (Notably, extort also exists, and yet is not a valid argument for lifeloss in white. And it was nonetheless fine, if only as a measure to tie the colors together.)None of these counterexamples point to black's ability to repeatedly dump counters on a creature at an efficient 1-1 mana ratio, which is what your card demonstrates. Hence I stand by my statement that this is almost certainly not in color.
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digiman619
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 87
Favorite Card: Extinction
Favorite Set: Dominaria
Color Alignment: Blue, Red
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Post by digiman619 on May 12, 2018 23:51:15 GMT
Wow, didn't expect the win. Here's our three limits: LIMIT 03: Your card includes a evergreen keyword ability LIMIT 51: ACK! A SHADOW! Oh wait, its mine. Your card involves light. (Thanks, EyeofTruth!)
And the new one: LIMIT 83: You'll go down in history! You card is historic. (Historic permanents are artifacts, legendary permanents and sagas) (Thanks digiman619!)
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oddnanref
3/3 Beast
Am I squirrel yet?
Posts: 198
Formerly Known As: Destiny, or full of yourself
Favorite Card: The one that is red and white all over
Favorite Set: The one with the new cool things
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Red
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Post by oddnanref on May 13, 2018 0:14:45 GMT
Okay, I have been seeing hybrid coloring wrongly. I would like to point out that Mer-Ek Nightblade basically has this card's effect built in in a repeatable manner. Considering the card can only be used in combination with a creature, this is basically more a creature than a sorcery. Then you need to consider cards that do this as an upside, like Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Mephidross Vampire, Quag Vampires, Ob Nixilis, the FallenYou can eliminate several vampires because they require something else. Yet it still happens in black. Either way, unfortunately it is still forced. Mainly my mistake for hybrid coloring in the wrong way. Either way, this is more like a kicker cost than an actual sorcery.
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kinotherapy
6/6 Wurm
stupid kor i just fell out of the floor
Posts: 322
Favorite Card: Ruthless Raider
Favorite Set: Rising Tides
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by kinotherapy on May 13, 2018 1:09:32 GMT
Fleur : Thanks for the feedback, Lily(?) I know how tough it is to judge like a dozen entries, so I think I might try this method of going completely insane next time I judge. oddnanref : Every colour gets +1/+1 counters but a card that just places counters is or maybe , same as every colour can draw cards but only gets cards that just draw cards ( Harmonize pls leave). Creatures putting counters on themselves isn't quite the same as a spell that puts counters on a creature, and the creatures that DO put counters on other creatures (Drana etc) do it as a reward for doing black things, like hitting creatures or players or when other creatures die. Though I really don't agree with the Outlast card, it fits in with what Yoshi was saying about it just being a set mechanic to tie its colours together. Anyway my entry:
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oddnanref
3/3 Beast
Am I squirrel yet?
Posts: 198
Formerly Known As: Destiny, or full of yourself
Favorite Card: The one that is red and white all over
Favorite Set: The one with the new cool things
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Red
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Post by oddnanref on May 13, 2018 3:58:08 GMT
Mmm... one of the moments in history that has driven my curiosity for years. The brightest light draws the deepest shadow. Green Lanterns have an Oath. Lets talk about another story, with all the familiar cards but they all seem wrong. Dawn Breaker's Oath Enchantment - Saga I: Target creature you control regenerates, then it fights target creature you don't control. II: Create two 2/2 zombie token that are copies of two different creature cards in your graveyard. III: Choose a creature, destroy all other creatures. They cannot be regenerated.
{Story} The story of the Dawnbreaker is similar to that of Batman. Bruce lost his parent, but after their deaths, in his shock, he felt nothing. Showing the ability to overcome great fear, he was chosen by a green lantern ring. Immediately he sought to avenge his parents and kill their murderer. To achieve this his overpowered the ring's restrictions on killing and succeeded on his goal. Consumed by grief, he attempted to resurrect his parent with the power of the ring. He unfortunately realized they were but mere imitations of life. Becoming a vigilante he killed criminals, until he realized that: "I missed them. I couldn't take it anymore. I didn't want to be Bruce Wayne. I didn't want to be Green Lantern. Standing in front of a lantern ... but feeling submerged in shadow. Like I never left the cave under my mom and dad's house, with the darkness, and the bats. So I became ... Batman: The Dawnbreaker." This caused the eventual destruction of everyone who opposed him and the universe where he resided. You can find more details here. On the site. Suggest you read the comics though.
The light? Well Dawnbreaker's oath:
With darkness black I choke the light, no brightest day escapes my sight. I turn the dawn into midnight, beware my power... Dawnbreaker's might!
Makes me wish Sagas had flavor text space.
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Casstastrophe
2/2 Zombie
fight the gender binary with fire? you should fight *everything* with fire
Posts: 116
Formerly Known As: Carn13
Favorite Card: Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Favorite Set: Khans Block
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by Casstastrophe on May 13, 2018 4:17:23 GMT
Ghothan, Shadowblade Adept Legendary Creature - Shade Warrior Menace Whenever ~ attacks and is unblocked, you may have the defending player discard a card. If you do, draw a card. His blades tear flesh from bone, soul from body, and light from darkness.2/2
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 12:44:18 GMT
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notfoxwolf
0/0 Germ
Posts: 24
Favorite Card: Urza, Academy Headmaster
Favorite Set: Planar Chaos
Color Alignment: Blue, Red
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Post by notfoxwolf on May 15, 2018 23:37:15 GMT
Assembled Lightcaster Artifact Creature - Construct Vigilance When Assembled Lightcaster enters the battlefield, tap up to three target creatures. 2/3
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Post by Fleur on May 16, 2018 0:15:46 GMT
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Fermat
8/8 Octopus
Posts: 436
Favorite Card: Force of Will
Favorite Set: Guildpact (set when I started playing)
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Black
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Post by Fermat on May 17, 2018 13:07:16 GMT
Etherium Sunsleigh Artifact — Vehicle Flash ~ can't be blocked by nonartifact creatures. Crew 4 (Tap any number of untapped creatures you control with total power 4 or greater: This permanent becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.)6/5 Flavor is that the vehicle exudes so much light that those with organic eyes have trouble blocking it due to the glare. Adding flash was both for the limit and for punny purposes.
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Akai Ryu
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 63
Favorite Card: Arcbound Ravager
Color Alignment: Colorless
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Post by Akai Ryu on May 17, 2018 13:53:35 GMT
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digiman619
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 87
Favorite Card: Extinction
Favorite Set: Dominaria
Color Alignment: Blue, Red
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Post by digiman619 on May 17, 2018 18:44:08 GMT
24 hour warning! Get your last minute edits in!
EDIT: Judging! Kinotherapy: This screams EDH to me, but it could see constructed play in a burn-heavy meta. Simple and effective. I like it. Oddnanaref: This has promise, but it's really rough in its current form. Why not make the creature indestructible until end of turn rather than regenerate? The second ability makes no sense as written, but I think means "Choose two target creatures in your graveyard. Create two tokens that are copies if each of them except they are 2/2 Zombie creatures in addition to their other types" (which means this fizzles unless there are at least 2 creatures in your 'yard.), and the third one is weird because there hasn't been a new card with "can't be regenerated" since Theros. It isn't really a thing anymore. Casstastrophy: Odd that the discard is a may ability, but very solid regardless. notfoxwolf: Solid card, but the artifact part feels forced to fit the challenge. Neat, though. Yoshi: Rhyming is cute, but the first ability feels more than . The rest of it's on point, though. Fermat: The evasion makes up for the high crew cost, but it's probably worth it. Akai Ryu: This just needs a tad bit more polishing. Gleam in the title is oddly uncapitalized, the second ability is technically correct, but it's a tad clunky; I'd word it "Each player loses life equal to the number of creature cards in their graveyard". All in all, a solid design.
The Winner is kinotherapy with Akai Ryu in a close second. Third is Yoshi if it matters.
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digiman619
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 87
Favorite Card: Extinction
Favorite Set: Dominaria
Color Alignment: Blue, Red
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Post by digiman619 on May 18, 2018 22:01:55 GMT
ALso, for future reference: Editing your previous responce don't ping as a new post, so this is both a PSA and to let the winner know that judging has been completed.
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kinotherapy
6/6 Wurm
stupid kor i just fell out of the floor
Posts: 322
Favorite Card: Ruthless Raider
Favorite Set: Rising Tides
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by kinotherapy on May 18, 2018 22:25:56 GMT
Thank you c:
Your new limits are:
LIMIT #15: It's called a cantrip, not a can't-trip: Your card draws one or more cards. LIMIT #1: Common sense: your card is a common or uncommon.
And introducing:
LIMIT #85(?): One for one! Your card neither gives you nor deprives you of card advantage.
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oddnanref
3/3 Beast
Am I squirrel yet?
Posts: 198
Formerly Known As: Destiny, or full of yourself
Favorite Card: The one that is red and white all over
Favorite Set: The one with the new cool things
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Red
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Post by oddnanref on May 18, 2018 23:15:51 GMT
We'll, this is makes it easier. Cantrips and card advantage. When you are looking for treasure. Hidden Treasure Hunt Enchantment When ~ enters the battlefield draw a card. , Discard a land card: search your library for a land card and put into your hand. Activate this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery. and only once per turn. I figured Natural selection needed it's land counterpart. Might prove too strong for land based decks. Thanks, forgot that did not place the rarity. Mm..Had to fix some things so it fit the rarity
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Casstastrophe
2/2 Zombie
fight the gender binary with fire? you should fight *everything* with fire
Posts: 116
Formerly Known As: Carn13
Favorite Card: Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Favorite Set: Khans Block
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by Casstastrophe on May 19, 2018 2:03:25 GMT
Spirestrike Sorcery Target creature you control gains flying and "Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, draw that many cards, then discard that many cards" until end of turn. Draw a card. The Mirran resistance has taken to the most isolated locales of their former home to plot their next moves.EDIT: Changed card to something that doesn't give card advantage.
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Post by Flo00 on May 19, 2018 2:48:49 GMT
Maddenung Fumes Sorcery Each player discards a card, then you draw a card.
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notfoxwolf
0/0 Germ
Posts: 24
Favorite Card: Urza, Academy Headmaster
Favorite Set: Planar Chaos
Color Alignment: Blue, Red
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Post by notfoxwolf on May 19, 2018 20:01:02 GMT
Sphinx's Inspiration Instant Draw cards equal to the number of creatures with flying you control, then discard that many cards.
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Akai Ryu
1/1 Squirrel
Posts: 63
Favorite Card: Arcbound Ravager
Color Alignment: Colorless
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Post by Akai Ryu on May 19, 2018 21:26:43 GMT
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kinotherapy
6/6 Wurm
stupid kor i just fell out of the floor
Posts: 322
Favorite Card: Ruthless Raider
Favorite Set: Rising Tides
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by kinotherapy on May 27, 2018 21:17:10 GMT
Judging this on Wednesday. Not really happy how this limit turned out since it was surprisingly confusing with enchantments, so you don't have to add this one to the list. Casstastrophe yours definitely nets a card though (and likely more), and notfoxwolf: yours puts you down a card. The others I guess depend on whether you count the enchantment, which I personally wouldn't. (also oddnanref missing rarity) Also also like to clarify that limit #15 doesn't actually require the card to cantrip, just to draw one or more cards, which might've affected some of these designs.
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Post by nhoj2307 on May 28, 2018 11:15:35 GMT
Hollow Vein Artifact Whenever you draw a card other than your first draw on your turn, each other player draws a card. : : Draw a card. Deeper and deeper in to this mine. Will the wails ever stop?Not sure of the wording, any help on that would be appreciated please
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 14:49:13 GMT
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