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Post by Flo00 on Jan 22, 2023 21:16:48 GMT
Same rules as in the other games: Last winner makes challenge, then judges after some undefined ammount of days. You know the drill. Only here, you are not allowed to do traditional black-bordered cards. Only whacky stuff like silver-borders, acorns and playtest cards are allowed.
And here is your first challenge: Grab a random non-funny mythic rare and make a funny card inspired by it. (Please also tell me wich card you got.)
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pernicious
8/8 Octopus
Posts: 440
Favorite Card: Mistmeadow Skulk
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor block
Color Alignment: Red
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Post by pernicious on Jan 22, 2023 22:18:20 GMT
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Post by Idea on Jan 23, 2023 0:01:14 GMT
Based on Seachrome CoastThe effect isn't the most silver-boardery ever, but I think it's a kind of fun wackiness that would be right at home in such a set. I also included some inspired image variation. Can you identify all the islands?
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Post by hydraheadhunter on Jan 27, 2023 17:47:02 GMT
Based on Gaea's Cradle (Silver Border) Gaea's Grave
Legendary Land
T, Tear a creature card you own from outside the game in half: Add black mana equal to its dollar value rounded to the nearest half-dollar. (A card's dollar value is the median price in USD a card buying business would buy the card for at the time this ability is activated.)
FT: "Here fell the last tree because money don't grow on trees." |
Something something commentary on the commodification of game pieces in the secondary market and the nature of magic the gathering as something resembling a pay to play and/or pay to win system. To a normal person this ability is devastingly expensive to activate; tearing a $16 creature card up turn one to cast a torment of hailfire for X=14 and winning the game before the opponent even gets a chance to play cards is unthinkable to most players. But rich people with capital? It's a viable win-con with no reason not to: heck they might mull down to four looking for both pieces of the combo to open with.
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Post by Flo00 on Jan 30, 2023 19:55:23 GMT
Judging on Wednesday.
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Post by twintania on Jan 31, 2023 0:26:14 GMT
Ruling: You may not to pretend to end the relationship. You may repair the relationship after it was broken but you need to end it once. I forgot to add the original card. Shattergang Brothers
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Post by Flo00 on Feb 2, 2023 19:48:37 GMT
Judgement day. {pernicious}Really strong card. Feels to be at the right cost. Hilarious flavor text.
{Idea}I like cards with that kind of chaotic random switcheroo effect. Reminds me of Risky Move. I think this deserves very well to be silver-border since it references players in sitting order. (Probably could be done in black-border, but is weird enough that it shouldn't.) Its kind of sag that this doesn't actually spread itself among players. If there are multiples, they will allways clump together at the active player. Maybe if it had flash and wandered around each end step instead of yours only? I definitely can't identify all those islands, though some of them seem very familliar. {hydraheadhunter}If this weren't silver-border, this would definitely get banned in every format. It can get you pretty much any ammount of mana (aside from going infinite) you might want on turn one. I see this entry as more of a statement than a playable card.
{twintania}That card is so sad! I'm both amazed and terrified by it. What kind of monster would ever play this? It does have a really good connection between activation and effect.
pernicious wins!
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Post by Idea on Feb 2, 2023 19:56:08 GMT
{Idea}I like cards with that kind of chaotic random switcheroo effect. Reminds me of Risky Move. I think this deserves very well to be silver-border since it references players in sitting order. (Probably could be done in black-border, but is weird enough that it shouldn't.) Its kind of sag that this doesn't actually spread itself among players. If there are multiples, they will allways clump together at the active player. Maybe if it had flash and wandered around each end step instead of yours only? I definitely can't identify all those islands, though some of them seem very familliar. I'll confess, I forgot the card always returns to you by the time you can play another one. I was thinking you could play another one while an opponent controlled it, but that detail just slipped my mind...
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Bouncearama
3/3 Beast
Posts: 174
Formerly Known As: pistonsmcgraw
Favorite Card: Davriel, Soul Broker
Favorite Set: Unstable
Color Alignment: Blue, Black, Red
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Post by Bouncearama on Feb 8, 2023 3:55:59 GMT
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Post by Flo00 on Feb 10, 2023 2:14:16 GMT
pernicious hasn't been online since I posted the judging. I'll dub Idea runner-up. You can go for a new challenge whenever you feel like it.
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Post by Idea on Feb 11, 2023 1:54:48 GMT
Alright, then, here's the next challenge:
Create a card (or cards) that "edits" the creature (anything from changing the name or the textbox, to giving types or anything else about the card) in a way that you could not see in normal magic. It needs to have an actual mechanical impact of course.
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Post by Flo00 on Feb 12, 2023 1:47:24 GMT
Here is a crazy one: Typomancer Crreature - Humane Wizrad : Change the text box of target permanent or spell by choosing one— • Exchange two letters or words next to each other. • Change one letter to another. • Add or remove one letter. If the new text doesn’t make sense, it retains its original meaning. 2/2
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Post by Daij_Djan on Feb 12, 2023 22:43:24 GMT
How abut changing the card template?
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Feb 13, 2023 2:09:41 GMT
HACKERMANA Creature - Mana When HACKERMANA enters the battlefield, target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it and change its mana cost to . 2/2 So powerful he can even hack time and space.
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Post by twintania on Feb 13, 2023 14:40:43 GMT
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pernicious
8/8 Octopus
Posts: 440
Favorite Card: Mistmeadow Skulk
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor block
Color Alignment: Red
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Post by pernicious on Feb 23, 2023 22:40:47 GMT
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Post by Idea on Feb 23, 2023 23:13:47 GMT
I'll be judging this one tomorrow!
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Post by Idea on Feb 24, 2023 17:24:25 GMT
Flo00 {Spoiler}Should probably be rare, depending on context even mythic. It's a repeatable effect that changes text in a relatively non-specific way. While no particular examples come to mind (trying to look up the possibilities wouldn't be feasible) changes of this nature seem like the kind of thing that people would quickly find an exploit for. Nonetheless, it definitely seems like a very fun card and an interesting angle to tackle. Also interesting that you chose to use a half mana symbol for this card. I think it's a bit undercosted (by more than half, I should say), but it's still a neat detail. Daij_Djan {Spoiler}Oooh, an innovative angle to be sure! I think if this was released for real though, one of two scenarios would be the case: Either you'd have to get the set to have normal and alternate versions of the card with retro frames, or this card would be likely pretty useless. Silver border games (things may be changing now, but I think this would probably still be an acorn card) are usually draft or at least specifically tend to bring silver border cards. The odds you'll find your every day reprint (lands aside) on a silver border game seem slim to say the least, and that's just any of those reprint, let alone the ones you specifically own, let alone the ones you own that would be of any use taking for that mana. It's certainly a card that seems fun if it works, but almost every time will be a vanilla 2/4. Even if it has set support, you'd need to find the specific cards. ZephyrPhantom {Spoiler}Fun card, fun reference, can be pretty brutal but it's still at kind of the level of a typical forced discard card, so I think it's pretty balanced. The only issue here is the tracking I feel, since the card doesn't specify anything like the card stays revealed and I feel could cause tracking problems even silver border doesn't seem to solve. twintania{Spoiler}As with some other entries here, this is interesting but impractical. Even having creatures that meet the criteria for the first ability is a challenge, let alone keeping them long enough to use the snake's ability. Furthermore, what's "in front" or "behind" is ambiguous and while you can speculate on what it might be wording like "to the right/left" would probably have been better. Nonetheless, the second ability definitely helps the first be possible to activate (maybe it should have been the first ability) and it's very flavorful and fitting to the concept! pernicious {Spoiler}Hahaha, this is definitely a fun and clever card. It doesn't quite meet the criteria in the same way as the others, but I think it still meets it ultimately. The one thing I would say could be better is not just straight up transplanting the whole creature, you're only moving the head after all, so a partial transformation would have been more fitting than a full one. Winner
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Post by ZephyrPhantom on Feb 24, 2023 18:30:51 GMT
Good point, hindsight is 20/20 and I probably would've exiled the card like Elite Spellbinder on a second go-around.
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pernicious
8/8 Octopus
Posts: 440
Favorite Card: Mistmeadow Skulk
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor block
Color Alignment: Red
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Post by pernicious on Feb 24, 2023 19:16:18 GMT
Thank you for the win, Idea.
For the next challenge: Design a card that has "Destroy target creature" in its rules text.
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Post by Flo00 on Feb 25, 2023 0:14:56 GMT
Taped Reaper Enchantment Whenever a player casts a spell with “Destroy target creature.” in its rules text, change that spell’s text by replacing all instances of “Destroy target creature.” with “You may open a sealed booster with a Sticker sheet in it. Then put a random sticker from a sticker sheet owned by anyone in the game on target creature without paying its {TK} cost.” {TK} is supposed to be the ticket symbol. Is there a download to implement it in MSE?
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Post by Idea on Feb 25, 2023 2:04:22 GMT
{TK} is supposed to be the ticket symbol. Is there a download to implement it in MSE? There is a somewhat complex but doable way of adding custom symbols, which you could use for that.
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Post by Idea on Feb 25, 2023 16:55:47 GMT
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Post by Flo00 on Feb 25, 2023 21:21:10 GMT
Just so I get this right: If two players pay the denied cost, the spell stays the same as long as both of them keep their palm up? And if one of them loweres it, then the other one can too, right?
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Post by Idea on Feb 25, 2023 21:43:21 GMT
Just so I get this right: If two players pay the denied cost, the spell stays the same as long as both of them keep their palm up? And if one of them loweres it, then the other one can too, right? That is correct, except in one regard. There's nothing restricting you to only paying the cost once (though unless you have a third arm you're not likely to do it more than twice), so two players could both have both palms up and the card would be the same.
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pernicious
8/8 Octopus
Posts: 440
Favorite Card: Mistmeadow Skulk
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor block
Color Alignment: Red
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Post by pernicious on Mar 5, 2023 17:32:49 GMT
Flo00: That's a creative design, I'd only raise its cost by either or .
Idea: "And now I attack you with Lord Brushwagg I, the Great Conqueror." That's definitely a fun spell. I might want to make it cost , and I'd have liked if it made the surviving creature legendary as well. Should the reminder text of denied say "If they do, add the "don't" or "no" in brackets..." instead?
The winner is Idea!
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Post by Idea on Mar 6, 2023 21:33:42 GMT
Idea: "And now I attack you with Lord Brushwagg I, the Great Conqueror." That's definitely a fun spell. I might want to make it cost , and I'd have liked if it made the surviving creature legendary as well. Should the reminder text of denied say "If they do, add the "don't" or "no" in brackets..." instead? Funnily enough, I considered making it cost As for the mechanic wording, I was thinking there could be several different brackets in some cases, so you'd choose one in those cases.
In any case, though there was unfortunately few competitors, thank you for the win! For the next challenge, make one host card and at least two augment cards that synergize with it in different ways.
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pernicious
8/8 Octopus
Posts: 440
Favorite Card: Mistmeadow Skulk
Favorite Set: Shadowmoor block
Color Alignment: Red
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Post by pernicious on Mar 7, 2023 12:05:35 GMT
Are there templates for them on mse?
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Post by Idea on Mar 7, 2023 13:23:25 GMT
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Post by Daij_Djan on Mar 7, 2023 21:58:40 GMT
Daij_Djan Oooh, an innovative angle to be sure! I think if this was released for real though, one of two scenarios would be the case: Either you'd have to get the set to have normal and alternate versions of the card with retro frames, or this card would be likely pretty useless. Silver border games (things may be changing now, but I think this would probably still be an acorn card) are usually draft or at least specifically tend to bring silver border cards. The odds you'll find your every day reprint (lands aside) on a silver border game seem slim to say the least, and that's just any of those reprint, let alone the ones you specifically own, let alone the ones you own that would be of any use taking for that mana. It's certainly a card that seems fun if it works, but almost every time will be a vanilla 2/4. Even if it has set support, you'd need to find the specific cards. Hope you don't mind my late response – but I totally wanted to give one anyway Big thanks for the feedback. You're definitely right – for some bizarre reason I didn't even think about how the card would play out in a normal Un-Set setting. Honestly I completely forgot acorn legends aren't legal commanders unless you get Rule 0 involved – because that's the setting I imagined Drat in. In my mind, he'd be leading a deck full of retro framed cards (so you'd definitely profit of its anthem ability) and most likely be paired against typical Commander staples – many of which have received retro framed reprints recently (so you could have a small collection ready to take over your opponents' stuff). But outside of this concept, it's really basically a very, very wordy vanilla
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