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Post by kefke on Dec 22, 2019 5:22:05 GMT
__  Creature —  Evolve  : Add equal to ~’s power. __ /__ ...it had to be done. |
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Post by gluestick248 on Dec 22, 2019 6:40:38 GMT
~ Creature — Elf Shaman Evolve : Add an amount of equal to ~’s power. _/_ What p/t would be both balanced and simple enough to be common? |
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Post by ameisenmeister on Dec 22, 2019 12:20:26 GMT
by gerezon (at Deviantart)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 16:37:29 GMT
Off topic, it would be super cool to do a tribute version of this at a higher rarity, where if tribute is not paid it makes a lot of mana. Like, you either get a 3 mana return and a 1/2 that taps for 1 or you get a 2/3 that taps for 2, but you don’t get to decide yourself. Something like that would be neat.
That being said, I’m thinking this dude should be a 0/2. Makes it weak to burn but theoretically only for one or two turns.
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Post by Flo00 on Dec 23, 2019 5:24:50 GMT
Time to put some made-up fantasy names on the cards...  ameisenmeister I hope your'e ok with how I put the image? |
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Post by kefke on Dec 23, 2019 7:49:16 GMT
Played around with adding flavour text. Shouldn't really be cramping the text like this on a Common, but then again, a Common probably shouldn't ramp this hard either.  |
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Post by ameisenmeister on Dec 23, 2019 9:07:38 GMT
Time to put some made-up fantasy names on the cards... ameisenmeister I hope your'e ok with how I put the image? Totally fine with that. However, my issue with the card is that it strongly reminds me of Gyre Sage, a rare that can be considered to be quite good. Sooo maybe we should overthink the mana cost of our card... |
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Post by kefke on Dec 23, 2019 10:00:23 GMT
Sooo maybe we should overthink the mana cost of our card... I think you're right, honestly. I would say that CMC 4 or 5 with a or even commitment wouldn't be unreasonable. Pushing the Seeker back to when solid mana bases have been established and making it less splashable would cut down on the value it has to ramp things considerably. |
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Post by Flo00 on Dec 24, 2019 8:00:16 GMT
We already have one damn bbusted Ooze. Let Play Design worry about the balancing and let's continue with the nxt card  |
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Post by ameisenmeister on Dec 24, 2019 9:38:27 GMT
I strongly suggest to simply change the cards mana cost to  so it's like a twist on Viridian Joiner. Why should we keep a card that we basically agree that it is too powerful?
Anyway, next card will have this art:
by Raph Herrera Lomotan
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Post by kefke on Dec 24, 2019 10:57:42 GMT
Name: Rapacious Hunger (I propose a red functional reprint of Predatory Hunger.  )
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Post by melono on Dec 24, 2019 14:42:43 GMT
*pic*
Rapacious Hunger
Instant
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Post by Flo00 on Dec 25, 2019 8:13:48 GMT
Rapacious Hunger  *pic* Instant |
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Post by ameisenmeister on Dec 25, 2019 8:31:55 GMT
Rapacious Hunger *pic* Instant Target creature gains " : This creature deals 3 damage to target creature." until end of turn. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 16:30:07 GMT
New card, since that one is done!
This one should have Tribute 3
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Post by inferno390 on Dec 27, 2019 0:58:35 GMT
New card, since that one is done! This one should have Tribute 3 Card is not done. It needs a rarity. I say common. Okay, now onto the next card. |
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Post by gluestick248 on Dec 27, 2019 4:24:56 GMT
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Post by DoctorStrangelove on Dec 27, 2019 13:46:59 GMT
Molten Schizoid
*art*
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Post by Flo00 on Dec 28, 2019 10:30:56 GMT
Molten Schizoid Creature  Tribute 3 0/1 |
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Post by Lady Mapi on Dec 28, 2019 22:30:25 GMT
Molten Schizoid Creature Tribute 3 You may have Molten Schizoid enter the battlefield as a copy of target creature or enchantment if its tribute wasn't paid. 0/1 |
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Post by gluestick248 on Dec 28, 2019 23:37:00 GMT
Molten Schiziod Creature -- Tribute 3 You may have Molten Schizoid enter the battlefield as a copy of target creature or enchantment if its tribute wasn't paid. 0/1 Not giving me a lot of options here |
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Post by ameisenmeister on Dec 29, 2019 11:52:06 GMT
I don't know whether the rules of this game allow me that ( Flo00 ?) but I want to object the recent additions to the current card. As it is now, the creature is either a 3/4 for four mana or a kind of clone with a heftier color investment. This isn't only very, very weak but also not in any way in green's part of the color pie, so the cost of makes no sense to me. Furthermore, the option of cloning a creature on a tribute card is a bad choice on its own because your opponent can usually simply check whether there is something worse than a 3/4 on the field. There is no mind game, no interesting decision to make here and that is basically what tribute is about. And finally, the card's name Molten Schizoid strongly suggests that the card would be red, which isn't the color of cloning effects either.
I have another suggestion on what the card could do but as I missed my opportunity to post the idea at the correct time, I'd like to hear from the others what they think about the issue.
{My idea} 
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Post by inferno390 on Dec 29, 2019 18:18:00 GMT
I agree with this, and furthermore, this is now the third poorly designed card we’ve done. I know this is just for fun, but we’re also supposed to be making a cohesive set, and right now we’re not doing that.
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Post by kefke on Dec 29, 2019 19:02:58 GMT
I'm late to this game, but I'm going to have to agree with the past couple of people.
Perhaps we should add a voting period when each card is finished where a majority decides to Keep, Change, or Scrap the card, rather than immediately moving to the next one?
EDIT: The way I'd see a vote to change working is that the card then continues through the design stage, with each person either adding, removing, or replacing some aspect of the card until another vote is called.
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Post by inferno390 on Dec 29, 2019 20:23:00 GMT
I agree with this voting mechanic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 2:28:59 GMT
Also agree
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Post by Flo00 on Dec 30, 2019 10:31:52 GMT
Molten Schiziod Creature - Shapeshifter Tribute 3 You may have Molten Schizoid enter the battlefield as a copy of target creature or enchantment if its tribute wasn't paid. 0/1 Ok, let's do that voting thingy. I guess a 24 hour frame - or at least 3 votes - after each card is finished is ok? I guess we should also review some of the previewsly created cards? ameisenmeister I do agree that this should be blue. Also it imho it should be  . I do not agree that this is a bad tribute design. There are existing tribute cards that do exactly what you describe: Ornitharch, Shrike Harpy, Siren of the Fanged Coast. My vote is for change. |
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Post by kefke on Dec 30, 2019 10:58:38 GMT
I vote Change as well.
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Post by DoctorStrangelove on Dec 30, 2019 12:44:41 GMT
I pretty much agree with everything that's been said about changes to the card and voting. In its current iteration, the card seems like something you'd see on the front page of MTGCardsmith, which is never a good sign. While I'll accept some portion of the blame (names should probably be established towards the end of a card's creation, rather than near the start, unless you're adopting some form of top-down design philosophy), I think the main point is: stop trying to make cards flashy. When making a custom set, you get used to having to make a whole lot of fairly dull commons and uncommons; this set should be no different. Hell, I was imagining the card just having some kind of Shock effect if the tribute wasn't paid.
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Post by Lady Mapi on Dec 30, 2019 15:27:10 GMT
I vote for change as well.
Also, maybe there should be a bit more order to the whole thing? I think things would flow better if, for example, the mana cost and the rarity (as well as maybe the card type) were nailed down first, and the name (and art) came last. Also, @doctorstrangelove, why the heck didn't you just make the no-tribute effect a shock if that's what you were thinking of? I'm legitimately curious about your reasoning here.
On the other hand, I think that the fact that we've gotten quite a few poorly-designed cards is inevitable in this kind of thing. The whole point of playing Beautiful Corpse-style games is that the output is nonsensical - so why fight it? On top of that, we all obviously have different ideas about card power levels and the color pie, so we'd need to nail down that kind of thing first if we were trying to make a really cohesive set.
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