Set Theme Game

sdfkjgh Hehe thanks, and you know what is always said, what matters more is the inside- which in this case might be a kitten, a Porcuparrot, and/or a Vupikeet. And then it would even become prettier as well!

sdfkjgh Thanks for the co-win and the kind words!

I don't want to postpone the challenge too long, but Flo00 do you want to take my half of the mantle and be the one who pushes the next round?
If you don't want to (or I feel like others begin to stomp their feet in the background) I could take over as well.

There used to be a lot of cards that would destroy the creature blocking or blocked by them after combat, regardless of damage dealt. Oftentimes with specification on which kinds of creatures would be affected. Future Sight introduced Deathtouch, which ultimately replaced these abilities. ...but what if R&D had gone in a slightly different direction? Well, somewhere is an alternate future where they did.



Bane is a keyword that destroys any creatures blocking or blocked by the bane creature after combat, whether they took damage or not. Like the abilities it replicates, it includes a condition for what kinds of creatures it affects. Meaning that you could errata the old cards to use Bane, which Deathtouch was unable to do. For example, Abomination would have "Bane of green and white.", Thicket Basilisk and Cockatrice would have "Bane of non-Wall creatures", etc...

Lady Mapi: Shitposting on the Sevens!



Ral: Oh, man. I'd tap that!



Oh, please. Even if, against all probability of all possible multiverses, you actually managed to get your hands on it, you of all people wouldn't know what to do with it!



What are you two talking about?



Ral: Take a good, hard, look...



I'm not sure what you're insinuating with such a lascivious tone, but-- *looks* Ohsweetmysteryoflife,atlasti'vefoundyou. I'm in love. I'm sorry, Thea, my former love of today, I don't think it could ever work out between us. You're a pinnacle of awesome hotness, and I'm, well--



Ral: A fat, aging, troglodyte with delusions of adequacy, on the cusp of giving up on your, let's face it, not-actively-pursued dreams, in favor of just dying alone in obscurity?



Hey, there's no need for such harsh accuracy! What were we talking about, again?



That.



Oh. Right. DAY-um! I'd tap that ssoo. haard!



No, Senpai, no! Don't objectify--*Jund grabs Mel's head, turns it* Holy. Fuck. I'd tap that so hard, we'd both be exerted for the next three turns!!!



Ok, that's hot! And I should know, I'm over one quarter lava and magma.



Ral: Well, I'd tap itso hard, it'd immediately untap!



Teferi: What the hell are you jokers babbling about?

So I thought I'd use the pre-spoiler from Maro for inspiration and decided on; "An artifact granting +2/+2 to a subset of creatures that first appeared in Alpha."

I'd like to judge this in the next couple days, but I'm also hoping to get more than just two entries.

Grave of the Titans
Artifact
Colorless spells cost more to cast.
If a card with converted mana cost 6 or more would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.

A siideboard card that can be used against a number of decks in different formats. Mostly tron I guess...

Time for judgement!

viriss - Props for working from an existing spoiler. The first thing that stands out to me on this card is the name. With the definite article "The", it sounds like it should be a legendary. At least, going by name alone. The effect is a little tricky to judge, but in the right deck could be devastating, especially with multiples in play. Don't get me wrong, it's a clever design. I'm just not sure where the ability to give out +2/+2 to your whole board over time, along with making sure new creatures come in with haste, really falls, though my gut feeling is that an official card would make you pay something on top of tapping, even at CMC 5. Again, multiples in play would see this going from "tap to give target creature permanent +2/+2" to as high as +8/+8, and able to do it to more creatures per turn as the effect got stronger. Which means that with it not being legendary, each one you put on the board is a much better payoff for its cost than the last, when the first one's already got some really good value. Also, while I'm reasonably sure that multiple instances of haste shouldn't tick an additional +2/+2 from the effect, it's bound to cause confusion. Reminder text would have helped to clear that up.

sdfkjgh - Abundance can be a pretty strong effect, so even though creatures are usually easier to get rid of, I think going with a more limited version for your Abundance-with-legs was the right call, even at the same mana cost. Especially since this effect doesn't replace normal card draws, and the card's second ability gives you a potential extra land drop (which in turn means an extra filtered draw) each turn, and potentially more later on since it doesn't need to tap to do it. Also, since you get to choose a card of the chosen type from the top four, rather than just getting the first one, it's a bit more powerful in that regard too (though only choosing from the top four mitigates this somewhat). All in all, I don't think this is an overpowered card, but it is deceptively strong at what it does. Card advantage is something Green struggles with, and this offers power in draw, ramp, and filtering. If it were official, I can see it easily becoming a staple in a lot of Green decks.

ameisenmeister - This is a really interesting card, because it would have been much more valuable in older sets, back when land destruction was more common. Typically, it's harder to get lands in the graveyard these days, with some exceptions...one of which is notable enough to go into more detail in a bit, here. Obviously, the ideal way to play this is to kick it with a land, so that you can get the counter, and negate the cost when it attacks. On the one hand, that means that any time you have a spare land in your hand it's an undercosted 3/4 that nets you an extra land on your next turn. On the other hand, you won't always have a land to do that by the time you have sources for three mana down, so that combo is more rewarding you for good hand luck. However, of note is that Landfall is confirmed for Zendikar Rising, and this pairs well with it. Possibly too well, though. There's a reason why WotC tries to stay away from repeatable graveyard recursion, and a card like this doesn't have much incentive not to take advantage of its trigger - especially if it was kicked, it's a solid choice for an attacker, and there's no other cost - so it can easily be paired with sac-lands to make certain that Landfall abilities go off every turn, if not more than once, on top of whatever the sac-lands can do. The ultimate example of this would be when it's paired with fetch lands, where it could guarantee each landfall trigger going off 2 times per turn, not counting normal land drops or other effects, for quite a few turns.

Flo00 - I actually like this. The Colorless-hosing is thematically appropriate, given Zendikar's history, and the same can be said for the "big-hosing" side of it as well. There's nothing particularly powerful about this in most cases, but as you say, it would make a decent sideboard card against a variety of different decks. I'd say that its mana cost seems even a little steep with the narrowness of its effects, but for both being packed onto one card, it's probably at least still in the playable range. Also, you reminded me that Titansgrave was a thing.

gamma3 - I get where you're coming from with this. All the MDFC lands we've seen so far are essentially the same thing as a basic land. On the spell side of this, it seems pretty balanced, even taking into account that WotC doesn't do as much land destruction as they used to. Obviously, the other side is just a basic Mountain that enters tapped...which I'm glad you did. It's clear that WotC are trying to make the Spell/Land hybrids less valuable on the Land side than single-faced, and that's certainly because otherwise there would be no value to using normal lands. I think the key to judging this card, though, is going to be to ask why did WotC leave off basic land types from the MDFC lands? Unfortunately, I can think of some good reasons. If a card has basic land types, then it's affected by cards that interact with those types. I'll leave aside the need to create rules for any potential confusion that might cause, but let's assume that those cards just are their types. If an MDFC is a basic land type, first of all that's just inherently stronger than a non-typed card with the same effect for various purposes (because there are effects that care about basic land typed cards you control), and WotC clearly wanted to make regular basic lands still have value over their MDFC counterparts. Secondly, they may have wanted to set a precedent. Right now, all MDFC lands have the land on the back face, which means (according to the Comprehensive Rules) that it has no land traits until played as a land. Suppose they made one where the Land side was the front, though? Worst case, you choose the active side when the card is played, and any effect that puts a basic land type on the battlefield can cast the spell side of a MDFC land for free. Best case, it has to enter play as a land, but effects that put it in your hand can still be used to tutor for the spell side. Now, full disclosure, I admit that's inviting a fringe case on the second point, but the first - that there was a deliberate choice made to limit the value of the land faces so that players would still be incentivised to use basic lands - still stands. So I'd have to say that precedents aside, if a MDFC land were to have a basic land type, it would have to have even more of a drawback than tempo loss, to ensure it's not an easy choice between it and a conventional land.


Winner for this contest is Flo00, congratulations!

I wanted to play around in the "sacrifice something" trigger area, and since there are just two demons I thought a third in a sort of cycle would work. I'm not 100% sure the triggered ability and P/T ratio is correct for uncommon, but it seems close to me.

sdfkjgh you know, colorless mana wasn't a thing in RoE. It came years later.

Last call for entries! Judging in a few hours.

Ominous Relic
Artifact
, Add one mana of any color.
Level up
LEVEL 1-3: Add one mana of any color.
LEVEL 4+: ~ is a colorless Eldrazi creature with base power and toughness 7/7.

I was initially worried about the card ramping into itself and resulting in a 6 mana 7/7 the turn it was played which didn't feel right even by modern standards, but you make a good point. I decided to bump up the initial casting cost by 1 and make the P/T 7/7 instead.