Phyrexian Ymonrah
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Post by Phyrexian Ymonrah on Apr 22, 2022 16:39:24 GMT
I have a mechanic called Veil, it's like ward, mixed with hexproof, but I have a problem, I don't know how to word it.
It goes something like this.
Veil <cost> (This creature can’t be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control, unless that spell or ability controller pay an additional <cost> to negate this effect.)
However I want just to negate this effect only per targetting, and can't be ward, cause ward doesn't work well to be given at instant speed, since the target was already chosen.
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Post by vizionarius on Dec 13, 2022 0:13:31 GMT
Making it a static ability means that you should be able to give it to your creature in response to someone casting a spell on it, since unlike with ward, the trigger won't have been missed (since there is no trigger at all):
"Spells and abilities your opponents control that target ~ are countered unless they pay <cost> for each spell or ability targeting ~."
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Post by twintania on Dec 13, 2022 4:41:33 GMT
Like Phyrexian Dreadnaught was once eratted, " As a spell or effect your opponent controls resolves, the player may pay <cost>. If they don't, counter it instead of resolving it." would works. Maybe "it fizzles" instead of "counter it" is more appropriate. If you don't prefer to use a word rarely used in the card text like resolve or fizzle, "  : Counter target spell or ability your opponent controls and targeting this permanent unless the player pays <cost>. This ability can be activated only once for each spell or ability." can do almost same thing except some cases such as Burning-Tree Shaman exists. |
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Phyrexian Ymonrah
7/7 Elemental
Posts: 378
Favorite Card: Omnath, Locus of All
Favorite Set: War of the Spark
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Black, Red, Green, Colorless
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Post by Phyrexian Ymonrah on Dec 13, 2022 12:49:44 GMT
I have a question now, what if I don't want to be countered, functioning like a hexproof that you may pay to deactivate.
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Post by vizionarius on Dec 13, 2022 16:36:42 GMT
"~ can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control unless they pay <cost> for each spell or ability that would target it."
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Phyrexian Ymonrah
7/7 Elemental
Posts: 378
Favorite Card: Omnath, Locus of All
Favorite Set: War of the Spark
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Black, Red, Green, Colorless
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Post by Phyrexian Ymonrah on Dec 13, 2022 17:19:31 GMT
Wouldn't it permit another opponent pay the cost?
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Post by vizionarius on Dec 13, 2022 17:21:35 GMT
I guess we need to specify the "they" or the "spell" better.
"~ can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control unless they pay <cost> for each spell or ability they control that target it."
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Post by hydraheadhunter on Dec 26, 2022 8:34:24 GMT
I think, "This creature can’t be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control unless that player pays [cost]" would be fine.
The way hexproof works is giving it to a creature cause spells targeting that creature, now illegally, fizzle, so there's no reason you couldn't also give veil the same exact wording you'd see on 'rhystic' hexproof.
Although thinking more about it, comprehensive as written, you wouldn't get the opprotunity to pay the veil cost for spells you'd already cast because their cost had been determined. I think you'd need to put a special en passant clause in your veil's comprehensives to make it function, something like: If the target of a spell would be made an illegal target by veil being granted at instant speed, that spells controller is given the opprotunity to pay the new veil cost.
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Phyrexian Ymonrah
7/7 Elemental
Posts: 378
Favorite Card: Omnath, Locus of All
Favorite Set: War of the Spark
Color Alignment: White, Blue, Black, Red, Green, Colorless
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Post by Phyrexian Ymonrah on Dec 26, 2022 14:03:35 GMT
This { if has_pt() then "creature" else "permanent"} can’t be target of spells or abilities an opponent controls, unless that player {for_mana_costs(add:"pays ", non:"", param1, action:true)} for each spell or ability that would target it.  |
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