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Post by cajun on Feb 13, 2019 20:20:25 GMT
"Hey intern, can you hear me? Hang in there, we're going to get you some help.""Oh you poor dear, let's get you patched up. Nurse! Get me a bed over here, and careful with Reyh's hat."I can't believe Rettai actually offered to negotiate after... that."No, that's to be expected. I just can't believe the bot backed down."The bot? I can't believe Reyhsia backed down. Thought she was going to rip both their heads off out there."Our head was spinning again. "Oh good, she's up. How are you doing, intern?" I turned to her, but wasn't thinking clearly enough to try to speak yet. "It's okay to be a bit dazed, you took quite the fall out there. Luckily you had a lot of help on your side." She offered us a smile before running off to another bed. So, the bot had struck a deal with Rettai. No doubt it would tell him whatever it was he had found out. Rettai would be suspicious of course, but he couldn't afford to ignore the bot's warnings. We had to prepare before things got real dangerous. Luckily, it had all it needed.
The distraction charm went up. We needed no interruptions. A stronger illusion followed. Anyone who did force their way past the first would just see the girl sleeping.
We picked up the straw hat we had been entrusted. She could hardly blame us if we lost it in this panic. An illusion wrapped around the straw, turning into a fine black hat with a wide brim. Another illusion wrapped around the first. The black hat was now a plain white sun hat. Another. Another. Another.
Its energy was running low. Two more. The small black hat was wrapped in one final illusion, a bright red hat with a black ribbon. An exact match of itself. With its last spell, the red hat on the girl's head faded to the brown of her hair and slunk down to a layer of fabric. It was a rank unbefitting our beauty, but sacrifices had to be made. The nest of hat illusions covered it. The distraction charms around it faded.
Alright bot. If you want the hat so bad, come and get it. Okus has spent 100 Valor to unlock A Sinister Decree. Karina has entered Night Terrors.
cyberchronometer and notdaedalus , this might be important for your discussion :^)
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Post by Neottolemo on Feb 13, 2019 21:32:13 GMT
"Miss - I apologise if I offend - but that hat simply does not suit you. It is missing some flair. It is not fancy enough. Here: I, Hyle Seritani, shall donate this to you instead." Hyle casually hands Karokus a piece of jewelry quite similar to the one she wears on her own head, adorned with pearls and a scallop shell. "What do you think?"
Seaborn Gift Instant Target creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn and can't be blocked this turn. If it's blue, whenever it deals combat damage this turn, untap target permanent you control and draw a card.
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Post by cajun on Feb 14, 2019 3:34:52 GMT
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"Oh... thank you?" the girl looked at the adornment, then clumsily tried to put it over the hat like Hyle's. "How does it look?" Charming Gift Enchantment - Aura Enchant creature Whenever enchanted creature becomes the target of a spell, draw a card. Seaborn Gift - this is doing bunches for a common, but iunno if it's bad bunches. 8.5/10
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Post by gurfafflekins on Feb 14, 2019 4:14:04 GMT
The soldier ran into the tall building, asking for the girl. When he was told she was injured by a crazy robot, he swore under his breath. As he asked to see her, they escorted him to her and he walked into the room. "Hey, Karina! Are you okay?" he asked, kneeling down next to her. "I... I'm sorry I left. I had no idea what that rowboat was doing - I went to talk to him and he told me you were trying to kill him. So I came to defend you against him." he sighed. "I guess I was a little late. If you don't mind, I'd like to be a bodyguard. Free of charge."Belated Soldier Creature - Human Soldier When ~ enters the battlefield, if you cast it from your hand, exile it. At the beginning of your next precombat main phase, return it to the battlefield. "Ah damn, I thought the sundial said it was noon!"2/2
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Post by cajun on Feb 14, 2019 8:32:20 GMT
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"I was trying?" the child asked quietly. "Rowboat wanted my hat." They took off the fake hat and looked inside it. A coin and a pink envelope fell from the lining down into the crown. "But that's where I keep what I have left. And what I have left of that, now. He tried to take it, so I ran away. And then... well, you probably saw it. I don't think I need a bodyguard so much as rowboat needs... whatever the opposite is."
"I did get to talk to someone before... Once this goes away, I'll bring you someone who can help you find your answers."Last Will Enchantment Whenever a creature you control leaves the battlefield, you gain life equal to its power. Belated Solider - could see this getting +1 power or toughness, since unlike his quicker buddy Elite Vanguard he can't block his first turn or attack his second. fun with flicker shenanigans tho 9/10
edit: owow i was looking at the older cards and realized this is basically a complete reversal of the first time you offered to be a bodyguard :^) Okus stared at the soldier's outstretched hand, uncertain of what to do. "Th-thank you, but I could not pay a bodyguard. And I'm sure you'd rather have a better adventure than following little old me." The child pretended to think for a moment. "But if she does cross your path, have you heard of someone named Kirino..."Punish Resistance Enchantment - Aura Enchant creature Whenever enchanted creature blocks, its controller loses life equal to its toughness.
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Post by gurfafflekins on Feb 14, 2019 17:51:20 GMT
The soldier nodded. "I understand. I won't be around all the time, you seem able to defend yourself from minor threats. But I'll keep an eye on you." he explained, not wanting to suffocate the girl. "..." he nodded as she told him she had someone to help him, remaining silent. "...That sounds great." he had no intention of particularly accepting the help, but he had to remain strong in front of the girl. His spear glowed, quietly crackling with red energy, leaning against the wall, right in Karina's vision, while the oblivious Aiden had no idea.Spear Spirit Creature - Spirit Soldier Flying Equip costs cost less. 2/1 (It's your choice - friend or foe?) Last Will: I'd say I'm worried about infinite life with infinite bounce/dies triggers, but that's honestly the least of the issues if you can get that. Plus, in a void, it's a good black enchantment. 9/10. Just for the fact it's not draining something which feels a little less black, and triggers on leaving and not just death. And huh - all things must come full circle then? I totally planned for that and it was NOT coincidence
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Post by Neottolemo on Feb 14, 2019 21:56:02 GMT
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"Oh... thank you?" the girl looked at the adornment, then clumsily tried to put it over the hat like Hyle's. "How does it look?" Charming Gift Enchantment - Aura Enchant creature Whenever enchanted creature becomes the target of a spell, draw a card. Seaborn Gift - this is doing bunches for a common, but iunno if it's bad bunches. 8.5/10 Charming Gift: I'd go with "the target of Charming Gift or another spell" but I like this a lot. 10/10
"Oh, it looks great!" Hyle notices that Karina's having some trouble with it. "Well, if it's too much trouble to keep it on your hat, you could try it on your hair. Or is it just too loose? I could make another one!" Hyle conjures up some pearls. "Maybe not right now, though." She hides them again. "Do you like the look?" She snaps her fingers and a jet of water spurts from the ground not far from the two, assuming the form of Karina, hat with jewelry included.
Creature - Reflection You may have Reflection in the Water enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield, except it has "Whenever this creature is dealt damage, sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step" and " : This creature gets +1/-1 until end of turn." 0/0
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Post by cajun on Feb 15, 2019 9:30:18 GMT
gurfafflekins The hat shielded their eyes against the growing light from the soldier's spear. "Hey, what's going on with that? Can... can you see that?"Behind the Veil Enchantment Creatures you control that are enchanted or equipped can’t be blocked except by creatures with defender. Spear Spirit - kinda expensive for giving an equip discount, and dunno that it quite needs to be symmetric at three mana. 8/10 Neottolemo
They looked at their water facsimile. How long have I been like this? "It's lovely." the hat lied to assured her. "How did you do that thing with the pearls?" the hat asked, twisting my hands to mimic the motions.Complain all you want, you're never getting "Out." It froze, then shook my hand again. "Ow, twisted something there." Eager Mimic Enchantment Whenever you activate an ability of a permanent, if it isn't a mana ability, you may have Eager Mimic become a copy of that permanent until end of turn. Reflection in the Water almost wonder if this could be a hair cheaper, since damage tends to be easier than targeting, tho the Morphling might be enough to offset it. 8/10
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Post by Neottolemo on Feb 15, 2019 14:28:18 GMT
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They looked at their water facsimile. How long have I been like this? "It's lovely." the hat lied to assured her. "How did you do that thing with the pearls?" the hat asked, twisting my hands to mimic the motions.Complain all you want, you're never getting "Out." It froze, then shook my hand again. "Ow, twisted something there." Eager Mimic Enchantment Whenever you activate an ability of a permanent, if it isn't a mana ability, you may have Eager Mimic become a copy of that permanent until end of turn. Reflection in the Water almost wonder if this could be a hair cheaper, since damage tends to be easier than targeting, tho the Morphling might be enough to offset it. 8/10 Eager Mimic: Does this copy permanents or creatures? It's unclear so I can't really rate this properly yet.
"Out? Out what? Are you alright, Miss?" Hyle is concerned, but she just brings out the pearls again. "It's just sleight of hand. These come from oysters that lived in the Merlano sea, but I come from the city of Lagan Tantid, under the lake of the same name. They're far away, so you might not have heard of them, but they are very beautiful. Where do you come from, Miss? What is your name?"
Merlano Oyster Creature - Oyster Defender Whenever Merlano Oyster blocks, you may have target player put the top two cards of their library into their graveyard.
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EDIT - The 'may' makes the Mimic work here, and I really love how it interacts with my card. I am not sure about the cost however. On one hand, it's on the cheap side. On the other, you still have to pay for the ability, so maybe this is alright. 8.5/10
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Post by gurfafflekins on Feb 15, 2019 22:09:34 GMT
The soldier turned around, looking at the weapon. "Uh... yes. But usually not this bright. That weird energy spear..." he muttered that last part, before the spear began to rattle violently. He moved to grab it, but the room was soon filled with a flash of bright light, and as he uncovered his eyes and looked back, he saw a figure of a... small girl? Roughly Karina's age, it was a bright white but crackled red and swirled with black. Aiden stared, open-mouthed and wide-eyed at the figure. After a moment of silence, the spirit looked at Karina, it's eyes narrowing slightly, then back to Aiden, and then a light girl's voice echoed throughout the room:"Daddy?"Familiar Phantom Creature - Spirit When ~ enters the battlefield, you gain X life, where X is the number of players on your team. A pet, a child, a friend - as close in death as in life.1/1 (osnap it's unfolding) Behind the Veil: (I honestly didn't even think of the symmetricalness but it worked out) and I like the equally ambiguous response (as in, friend or foe?). Good card too, could see it in a MXX set, 10/10.
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Post by cajun on Feb 16, 2019 5:29:59 GMT
Neottolemo No, I'm not alright. "I'm from a city far away too, but we're next to a lake, not under one." And neither is thi
"They are very beautiful, I've never seen anything quite like it."Adept Recovery Enchantment Whenever one or more cards are put into your graveyard from your library, you may return one of those cards to your hand. I have not forgotten, but thank you for reminding me regardless.
Merlano Oyster - little doopy to get much mill in but guess commons gonna common 8/10
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Post by cajun on Feb 16, 2019 5:49:33 GMT
gurfafflekins Don't. Say. Anything. The voice in our head was stupid but we weren't sure what else to do anyway. We turned from the shifty-eyed spirit to Aiden expectantly.Familiar Connections Enchantment At the beginning of your upkeep, scry X, where X is the number of players on your team. Familiar Phantom - neat little common for a team set, 8/10
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Post by gurfafflekins on Feb 16, 2019 7:11:10 GMT
cajunAiden looked back at Karina, then at the ghost. "...R-Rose? What are... why are..?" he stammered out. The spirit, "Rose", walked up to him and gave him a hug. After he gently lowered his hand and patted the girl's head, she released him and walked up to hat girl. It looked at her for a moment, before the swirling black got slightly more pronounced. "You can't take my daddy from me, hat girl." Putting a hand on the hospital bed, a white light started to envelop the bed, slowly.Consuming Spirit Creature - Spirit Flying When ~ enters the battlefield, you may exile target nonland, nonplaneswalker permanent until ~ leaves the battlefield. 3/1 Familiar Connections: I like the idea this could be a cycle now. Scry every turn is pretty good, and gets better in teams. 9/10 for mild cost concerns, probably is a more likely cost for a card that let's you have the back-half of Thassa usually.
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Post by cajun on Feb 16, 2019 8:32:58 GMT
gurfafflekins The hat jumped back from the light and instantly regretted it as Karina's head reeled. Running wasn't going to be an option. "Rose!" the hat tried to refocus their thoughts. "We've heard so much about you. We were about to help your daddy find you!" It wasn't about to rely on that, an illusion spell already building in preparation.Off Guard Enchantment
When Off Guard enters the battlefield, draw a card.
Permanents entering the battlefield don't cause abilities your opponents control to trigger. "Hold on, wait, I wasn't ready!"
Consuming Spirit - low toughness fiend hunter is a bit of an oof but the flying helps carry it. 9/10
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Post by gurfafflekins on Feb 16, 2019 9:35:15 GMT
cajunAs the light crawled up the bed, Aiden seemed to snap out of his shock. "Rose! Karina!" he shouted both names, concern evident for both of them. He grabbed at the spirit with his arms, surprisingly managing to grab her and remove her hand. The light starts to leave the bed, as Rose struggles against Aiden's grasp. "Let me go, daddy!" she shouted, reverberating through the room. As she crackled with red energy, Aiden's body also crackled, and he groaned in pain, blinding light radiating from where she wasn't covered. The spear laid within Karina's grasp - if the spirit came out of it...Rose, Shining Spirit Legendary Creature - Spirit Whenever ~ attacks, your opponents can only block with one creature this combat. "I just want to show my daddy how brightly I can shine..."0/3 Off Guard: Usually in white, like Hushwing Gryff, or an artifact like Torpor Orb, but I could see it on a blue enchantment. Feels weird to put the card draw on it, even if that is a very blue thing though. 9/10.
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Post by fluffydeathbringer on Feb 16, 2019 17:09:13 GMT
Karina had weighed on As'han's mind for some time -- not because she was acting strangely for a child, mind, but because she was acting entirely too carefree. A healthy dose of humble pie was just the ticket, thought the fox -- and so the hat-and-child duo found one of its walks interrupted by two massive and terrifying monsters roaring about eating the child's bones for being in its way. An illusion, of course, meant to frighten rather than harm -- after all, how could that perfectly ordinary little girl tell the difference?
Sorcery Create two 3/3 red Illusion Beast creature tokens. Those tokens gain haste. Exile them at the beginning of the next end step. "Dullards who can't tell flesh from tricks of light deserve every loss that can be inflicted upon them." --Ithan, fever mage
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Post by Neottolemo on Feb 16, 2019 18:46:21 GMT
Neottolemo No, I'm not alright. "I'm from a city far away too, but we're next to a lake, not under one." And neither is thi
"They are very beautiful, I've never seen anything quite like it."Adept Recovery Enchantment Whenever one or more cards are put into your graveyard from your library, you may return one of those cards to your hand. I have not forgotten, but thank you for reminding me regardless.
Merlano Oyster - little doopy to get much mill in but guess commons gonna common 8/10 "Thank you. You can keep them. Now, I'd just need to know your name, then I will have to leave for a while to do some grown up stuff, but don't worry, I can bring more pearls later, or other curious things that came from the waters."
Adept Recovery: That's very interesting. I feel like self mill can use this to set up combos. Though narrow outside the archetype (maybe putting it on an efficient body could fix that?) the effect's pretty cool, actually. 8.5/10
Promise of Wonders Instant Search your library for a card and reveal it. Target opponent may have you put that card into your hand. If they don't, shuffle it back into your library, then draw three cards.
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Post by cajun on Feb 16, 2019 21:21:40 GMT
gurfafflekins Illusions it was then. Had the ghost been watching, it might have seen the weird shimmer as Karina leapt from the bed next to Rose. "Hey, boogerbreath!" Karina yelled. "Why don't you lay off daddy and pick on someone your own size!" she taunted.Defensive Post Enchantment Whenever one or more creatures attack you, you may have Defensive Post become a copy of target attacking creature until end of turn. Call for Aid: Vampire's Bitedang Rose you scary, but seems safe enough. Would normally call this blue or red, but white's dabbled with it enough in Master Warcraft and Dueling Grounds and such, 10/10(re: Off Guard - this is only worth ~1 - 1.5 mana but you don't really want it to be a t1 play. Enchantments solve that by adding cantrips to up the mana cost, which also makes the redundant doubles not so bad) gotta leave for ~hour and will be back for fluffy and neo
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Post by Lady Mapi on Feb 16, 2019 22:12:48 GMT
Lady Mapi The sound of ruffling fabric fills the air, or perhaps just your head. After a moment, you realize the hat is laughing.
"What is your game Kirino?" the girl's voice twisted as Okus dropped the act. "Get close enough to grab us? Discredit us to Rettai? As much as we would love to have the honor, we are not about to be pulled into your trap."
"And what of your poor, little, Karina?" the child's voice returned. "She's gotten so very active. I bet she would remember this once I'm gone. Is that something you want on your conscience?"
The ruffling returned. "Perhaps it is. I'm not the empath after all." They turned their back to Kirino. "This child won't be killing you this day. At least, not on our own." the hat goaded as it slowly walked away.Under My Wing Enchantment - Aura Enchant permanent with converted mana cost 3 or less You control enchanted permanent. Enchanted permanent has hexproof. Fair Exchange has got the weird Aura swap thing going on again, as in most cases it's never gonna get swapped; it resets Exchange but doesn't give back the stolen creature so usually activating is all downside. Also makes this kinda a Threads of Disloyalty that's better four times over, including nabbing lands for 3. Idea's neat but execution needs some help, 6/10 "Hat, oh hat. If only you knew ." Kirino stands there, crying sparks onto the road. "If only you knew..."Under My Wing is a pretty nifty card. I see no issues with it. 9/10
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Post by cajun on Feb 17, 2019 0:43:05 GMT
fluffydeathbringer Karina leapt back from the towering beasts, taking a few cautious steps back while they roared. The hat could tell there was something illusory at play, but she couldn't tell if it was dangerous, yet.
"You don't want to eat my bones! They're all crunchy." she said, weaving a spell behind her back.
Truesight Enchantment Whenever a creature attacks a player or planeswalker, you may exile that creature, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control tapped and attacking that player or planeswalker if able. "Illusions, trinkets, blessings. All of it clears away."
Ithan's Raid - Not quite sure how to eval this one, is more stoppable than Thatcher, but hits a lot harder for the extra mana. 7/10
Neottolemo "It's Karina," she said in her fake sweetest voice. "You have fun with your big people stuff, I'm gonna see how to make this look best."Price of Wonders Enchantment Whenever an opponent searches their library, you may have that player reveal their hand. If you do, choose a nonland card from among them. That player discards that card. Promise of Wonders - kind of an oddball cause its a tutor, which blue normally doesn't get, and a kinda-sorta punisher? Suppose the closest comparision is Fact or Ficiton, which feels like the more blue way to go about the effect. 7/10
I sat over the child, hesitating every time her breaths slowed. She was going to be fine, I reminded myself again. She just needed rest.
Her head moved, and I noticed a blackened... thing stuck to the ribbon on her hat. I pulled it off, and recognized the charmed pin she told me she had been gifted on her first days in the Arena. A protection spell given to her by the old hunter that had left the Arena long ago. It had done its job.
No doubt that stupid robot picked up the 'overly advanced' scent from this. If I saw that bucket of bolts again, it would be for the last time.Okus can now call aid from Aether Revolt
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Post by gurfafflekins on Feb 17, 2019 1:00:01 GMT
cajun The ghost shrieked at the taunting, managing to break free of Aiden's grasp and knock him to his behind. "Damn it!" grunted the soldier, as his spear erupted with another flash, creating the appearance of a mature woman. Aiden stared at the other one. "Melody..?" he asked, staring. The ghost smiled at the soldier, before turning to the ghostly child. She grabbed her by her shoulders just as she leapt at Karina, and turned her to her. "Sweetie, no one is trying to steal daddy from you. Okay?" the child continued to struggle, now just angry at the other young girl's rudeness. The woman kept a tight grasp however. "Now, Karina was it?" she asked, walking up to the illusion with the child crossing her arms angrily. "I apologize for Rose's behavior." she said. "Now, let's talk about this later, Rose? Tell the nice girl goodbye." and the ghost waved. They then lost their form, and the remaining light absorbed into the spearhead.Aiden sat, dumbfounded. He looked to Karina, and opened his mouth to speak, before words failing him.Matriarch, Melody Legendary Creature - Spirit Flying , : exile ~ and target nonland permanent. You may cast ~ from exile once each turn. "Come now child. I know how to cheer you up."3/3 Defensive Post: I like it. 10/10. Gotta love that Mirror Mockery kinda stuff. Good Aid too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 7:31:28 GMT
A white-and-red-haired male, donning fox ears and a flowy, ornate robe, appears in a flurry of petals, and pats the hatted girl on her head.
"Hello."
Petalsoul Enchantment Creature - Spirit Whenever Petalsoul attacks, add . 2/1
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Post by cajun on Feb 17, 2019 8:00:45 GMT
gurfafflekins "No trouble miss ghost lady." Karina said before the ghosts faded. The illusion headed back to the bed, the two spells fading as they overlap. She looked to the soldier, not sure of what to say herself.
"Hey," I prodded. "We got this."Beyond Life Enchantment Spells you cast from exile or from graveyards cost less to cast. Activated abilities of cards in exile or graveyards cost you less to activate. Matriarch, Melody - wording you want there is "You may cast ~ from exile if you haven't cast a spell named ~ from exile this turn." this kind of Martyr removal doesn't work so well in white when its repeatable, becomes a consistent 3WWW: Exile target nonland permanent. 7/10
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Post by cajun on Feb 17, 2019 8:16:24 GMT
@cyanogynist Karina flinches away from the contact. "Uh, hi." she said while fixing her hat. "What are you looking for?"Wilted Lineage Enchantment As Wilted Lineage enters the battlefield, choose a number. Creatures your opponents control with the chosen converted mana cost don't untap during their controller's untap steps. Petalsoul - bit too simple to do much with, and Enchantment is just kinda there to be there 6/10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 8:22:04 GMT
The fox-eared male sits down. "Nothing in particular," he says.
Wavering Purpose
Enchantment At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal a card from your hand at random. That card costs less to cast until end of turn. Wilted Lineage: A simple, perfectly blue sideboard card. 10/10
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Post by gurfafflekins on Feb 17, 2019 8:38:57 GMT
cajunThe soldier stared at the spear, then Karina, then the spear. Less confusion and anger than one might expect - just this blank look of not knowing. He stood up slowly, and dusted himself off. “I... I’m not sure I’m qualified to be watch over you right now.” he said slowly, moving to gently pick up the weapon. “I’d... stay away from me. I don’t know if I can control... whatever just happened?” he said, his voice cracking slightly. He stood silently for another moment, before briskly departing without so much as a goodbye.Beyond Life: Blue gets cost reducers it’s true, but graveyard care is usually black’s alley- maybe ? 8/10
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Post by Neottolemo on Feb 17, 2019 11:11:21 GMT
Neottolemo "It's Karina," she said in her fake sweetest voice. "You have fun with your big people stuff, I'm gonna see how to make this look best."Price of Wonders Enchantment Whenever an opponent searches their library, you may have that player reveal their hand. If you do, choose a nonland card from among them. That player discards that card. Promise of Wonders - kind of an oddball cause its a tutor, which blue normally doesn't get, and a kinda-sorta punisher? Suppose the closest comparision is Fact or Ficiton, which feels like the more blue way to go about the effect. 7/10
Price of Wonders: This isn't out of character for black and seems like a good way to mess with combo. I think it can probably afford to be a hair cheaper, have flash, or be on an efficient body, though. 9/10
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Post by fluffydeathbringer on Feb 17, 2019 18:08:21 GMT
Truesight: not sure this needs to cost this much, given all it does is repeat etbs and I'm pretty sure this can't even stack? nevermind, didn't notice other uses, still doesn't need to be this expensive 8/10
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Post by cyberchronometer on Feb 18, 2019 23:47:41 GMT
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Post by cajun on Feb 19, 2019 5:15:46 GMT
cyberchronometer"Karina? Reyhsia? Where are you?" Worryingly Absent Enchantment When Worryingly Absent enters the battlefield, exile target creature or planeswalker until Worryingly Absent leaves the battlefield. At the beginning of your upkeep, the owner of the exiled card loses 1 life. "Are you serious?" someone finally answered the Director. "Reyhsia was already charging out of here before the first tremor stopped."
"I saw the little intern leave this morning. Think she's off playing with Nisita's kid. Lucky kids are probably in the safest place in the whole Arena." Rettai, Panicked Guardian - poor guy doesn't know what he's getting in to. Is a bit too bad at winning the game than i like in a five mana walker, but he's a nice value engine 9/10
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