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Post by mrlozano on Mar 4, 2019 12:48:09 GMT
So, I've always wanted to make a four color Landfall deck, because Tayova + Omanth + The Gitrog Monster seems like insane value.
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qorbin
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Post by qorbin on Mar 7, 2019 23:30:17 GMT
Closing 24 hours, I will judge soon after Edit: closed, will probably judge tomorrow
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qorbin
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Post by qorbin on Mar 10, 2019 18:58:14 GMT
Judging Time kefke A very interesting card. I have always liked the idea of the assembly workers. overall, nice take on a 4 color planeswalker sdfkjgh -1/-1 counters buffing it really fits in with the phyrexians although it is a bit wonky. As for the second ability i think its a little bit broken being able to shrink your opponents stuff, and buff Asura at the same time for only seems a little too good to me. but i still really like the card Sanfonier of the Night A 4 color dragon tribal commander, nice. a little to cheap for what it does though viriss Nice and simple. It is a very good 2 sided card. it helps your opponent but it usually helps you more. this is a good fair card Tesagk good but if you're going to flash this in to tap it and sacrifice your creatures in response, it would need haste if that's how you wanted it to work. On a side note the last ability is worded confusingly gateways7 very nice for enter the battlefield tribal, but that last ability should probably be worded "at the beginning of the next end step" instead Jartis have always wanted a legendary with constellation. and using phasing is very rare and unique Flo00 cool, a bolas fetcher so you can basically have a planeswalker bolas as your commander. mrlozano I love this card and I love landfall, an army of big beefy lands sounds awesome. but only there is only one thing wrong, the first ability basically negates the commander tax.
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Post by Tesagk on Mar 10, 2019 19:37:24 GMT
Tesagk good but if you're going to flash this in to tap it and sacrifice your creatures in response, it would need haste if that's how you wanted it to work. On a side note the last ability is worded confusingly Nope. The flash is meant for it to be able to come in suddenly and block, not so you can come in and blow up all your stuff. And the last ability has been vexing in general. You might note the conversation between myself and sdfkjgh trying to find a way to clear it up. This was the best end result I could come up with.
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Post by mrlozano on Mar 11, 2019 11:15:07 GMT
Thanks for the win! (Regarding my entry, in fact I wanted it to avoid command tax. That may put it into the pushed side but I feel it's ok for a 4 color commander.) Looking at the Boros commander page in EDHrec you can see that among the top twelve boros commanders only two (three counting Depala) of them don't have winning through combat damage as their main game plan: Brion and Firesong/Sunspeaker. So, your next challenge is to design a red-white commander that focuses on things that are not combat (you can take the two mentioned above as examples).
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Post by Daij_Djan on Mar 11, 2019 13:03:01 GMT
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Post by melono on Mar 11, 2019 13:43:18 GMT
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Post by viriss on Mar 11, 2019 14:04:17 GMT
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Post by kefke on Mar 11, 2019 16:33:57 GMT
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Post by sdfkjgh on Mar 11, 2019 20:44:25 GMT
Apparently, Boros is my least-designed color combination.
Gola of the Tithes Legendary Creature--Minotaur Soldier Whenever an opponent pays , Gola of the Tithes deals 2 damage to that player. {Boros watermark} 2/4
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pbtenchi
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Post by pbtenchi on Mar 11, 2019 23:41:56 GMT
Ios the Pilgrim Legendary Creature: Human Cleric ::Rare:: Defender As long as you control no other creatures, @ has indestructible. Whenever you cast a non-creature spell, you may discard your hand and draw 7 cards. 4/4
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Sanfonier of the Night
7/7 Elemental
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Favorite Card: The Prismatic Bridge
Favorite Set: War of the Spark
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Post by Sanfonier of the Night on Mar 12, 2019 0:20:28 GMT
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Post by Flo00 on Mar 12, 2019 0:35:13 GMT
How about Omen Machine as a commander? Undroo of the Good Omens Legendary Creature - Minotaur Cleric At the beginning of each player’s upkeep, that player reveals the top card of his or her library and gains life equal to its converted mana cost. If it’s a land card, the player puts it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, the player casts it without paying its mana cost if able. 3/5 The strategy is probably just playing expensive stuff (plus rituals?) or something...
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Post by geminix on Mar 12, 2019 7:20:22 GMT
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Post by gateways7 on Mar 12, 2019 23:42:51 GMT
I think a commander like this incentivizes both strategies like flicker (targeting opponent's creatures) and a Boros graveyard strategies very tangentially while also working pretty well as a board-wipe tribal commander. EDIT: Yeah, the old version was super broken. Hopefully this is more balanced.
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Post by sdfkjgh on Mar 13, 2019 0:30:00 GMT
I think a commander like this incentivizes both strategies like flicker (targeting opponent's creatures) and a Boros graveyard strategies very tangentially while also working pretty well as a board-wipe tribal commander. You do realize that you gain 2 life from the triggered ability+lifelink, right?
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Post by gateways7 on Mar 13, 2019 0:31:27 GMT
I think a commander like this incentivizes both strategies like flicker (targeting opponent's creatures) and a Boros graveyard strategies very tangentially while also working pretty well as a board-wipe tribal commander. You do realize that you gain 2 life from the triggered ability+lifelink, right? While I didn't, I think this actually makes the card better, as it allows you to have a net positive for activating the ability and casting board-wipes on your own creatures.
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Post by Tesagk on Mar 14, 2019 11:23:33 GMT
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Post by gluestick248 on Mar 14, 2019 12:55:21 GMT
Akali, Sun-Touched Stomper Legendary Creature — Dinosaur Lifelink, trample : Akali deals 1 damage to each creature and each opponent 5/4
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Post by Tesagk on Mar 14, 2019 14:57:57 GMT
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Post by Jartis on Mar 15, 2019 8:50:22 GMT
Grand Commander Belia Legendary Creature - Angel Soldier At the beginning of your end step, if you control more creatures than each other player, put a victory counter on Grand Commander Belia. At the beginning of your upkeep, if Grand Commander Belia has 5 or more victory counters on it, you win the game. 4/4
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Post by Lady Mapi on Mar 16, 2019 22:39:28 GMT
Legendary Creature - Human Shaman When Yalta Min enters the battlefield, exile target creature you control and target creature you don't control until Yalta Min leaves the battlefield. At the beginning of your upkeep, create a token copy of each creature exiled by Yalta Min. Exile those creatures at the beginning of the next end step. 2/2
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The fact that she doesn't give the token copies Haste is intentional.
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Post by mrlozano on Mar 18, 2019 11:20:47 GMT
Judging in ~24 hours, get your last entries or edits in!
EDIT: Closed for judging.
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Post by mrlozano on Mar 19, 2019 20:16:05 GMT
Alright, let's go! If you have any issue with the comments feel free to PM me or to post it in the thread, I will do my best to solve your questions. (Side note: judging this things is exhausting, but pretty funny.) Daij_Djan : At first glance, superfriends in only two colors felt underwhelming, but after looking at the number of planeswalker cards that can be played in a Boros deck, there are a wooping 40 and most dedicated EDH lists with more colors don't run that many. Anyways the first ability seems to be the real deal here. At its worst, it's making all your walkers survive their own ultimates (I think it works that way at least). The second ability is a good in color protection foryour walkers. Very good desing, I would probably brew with it if it was an official card. melono : This is in Firesong and Sunspeaker style, it allows you to do a red thing given you are making also a white thing. It pusnishes you opponents for gaining too much life, but I that's very meta dependant. Probably at it's strongest with Boon Reflection. Also I see a game-winning combo here ( Spirit Link), but requires infinite mana so if you like it that way Boros combo is always a good thing to play. viriss : I'm not sure whether or not this is still a combat-focused comander (it would love Godo, Aurelia, and friends) but given you are bassically milling your opponents seems fair game. The random discard can trigger some players, but I think it's a very janky commander to be competitive. Anyways, I like it, power doesn't equal fun. (Also, that art is very disturbing). kefke : So, this is the child of Stax and Soldier tribal. Its activated ability is a "less powerful" Brion. I see it mostly helming Stax lists that try to finish the game with a Martial Coup/ Secure the Wastes with X equal to all your mana. If you get to untap without getting wiped, you probaly have it. And the first ability probably ensures none disrupts you. Overall is fine, but I can't help feeling it uncohesive, you know, the two abilites don't seem to stick together in a coherent way. sdfkjgh : Quick and straightforward, truly Boros. This is okay, but mostly as part in the 99 in an EDH deck. If you want to stop your opponents from cheating spells you are probably better off playing Lavinia in an Azorious deck (Also, I'm not sure if rules-wise this punishes players for cheating spells, but I think that's what you wanted). pbtenchi : You could have won this contest with only one change: remove defender. I would love a deck full of noncreature spells (with some Eldrazi Titans to prevent death by self mill) that boosted your general's power and smashed faces in a mix of Voltron and Spellslinger. But it having Defender totally stops that route. I would definitely give it a try if I could make that build (I'm really hyped right now for Wizards making that one day). Sanfonier of the Night : I'm going to be clear, I don't like this. I think you wanted to make a Ramp commander but it forcing you to sacrifice your lands with the first ability and then asking you to sacrifice those same lands to the second one seems like he is punching himself in the face. Probably without the first sacrifice ability it would be broken but this way it seems unplayable. (Sorry if I've been harsh, I mean everything as a constructive critic.) Flo00 : As you said it's Omen Machine but only with good omens. Cheating Eldrazis is always fun but this can also be played in a Group Huge style if that's your way. geminix : Emrakul and some wurms are crying, the poor things didn't deserve to be killed by Blasphemous Act. Leaving jokes aside, I like this and how the abilites mirror each other. It's simple and clear and communicates the game plan very well. Nice entry (but I would have loved if it could copy Boon Reflection's trigger). gateways7 : What can I say that you haven't said yet in your description? It's a very nice card. Just one thing: I think you could say just "you gain 2 life" instead of "you gain twice as much life", because it changes nothing, does it? Tesagk : This is an insta-win if you cast Secure the Wastes with X equal to 20, but that's a preety hard task to achieve in Boros. Anyways, I think it's too easy to break, 20 creatures seems like much but you can just create lots of tokens. It rewards you for going wide without disabling the combat way so it's a nice enabler. I see it at its best acting as a hidden commander in the 99. Also, if the win trigger was on the upkeep it would be less likely to steal a game out of nowhere (well, if having twenty creatures can be called nowhere). I like it. gluestick248 : Pyrohemia as a commander? Sing me up. Now seriously, the cost of the activated abilty makes it prohibitve most of the time to kill 3-toughness creatures, but it being instant speed can take combat math to some interesting levels. I also like it being a dino, allowing for Boros dinos capitalizing Enrage abilities. Jartis : This is very similar to Tesagk's entry, but better executed (sorry Tesagk). Anyways, it seems too weak. If you got the counters instead of the creature it would be far more powerful (maybe too powerful) but at least it would stop it from being murdered with four counters. Lady Mapi : Alright so, Fervor and all its variants are auto-include in this decklists. Outside of that, exploiting ETB triggers (and not only your triggers) has already proved powerful (ask Brago and Roon). Seems okay at four, as that the cost of most Oblivion Rings with upside. {And the winner is...} This was a very tough one! Plenty of good entries. In the end the win goes to gateways7, with Daij_Djan, geminix, viriss and pbtenchi as runner-ups, in no particular order. As I said, tell me any thoughts or complaints, I will answer them gladly.
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Post by gluestick248 on Mar 19, 2019 20:36:53 GMT
gluestick248 : Pyrohemia as a commander? Sing me up. Now seriously, the cost of the activated abilty makes it prohibitve most of the time to kill 3-toughness creatures, but it being instant speed can take combat math to some interesting levels. I also like it being a dino, allowing for Boros dinos capitalizing Enrage abilities. You didn’t even comment on the lifelink. I thought I was clever
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Post by mrlozano on Mar 19, 2019 20:48:30 GMT
gluestick248 : Pyrohemia as a commander? Sing me up. Now seriously, the cost of the activated abilty makes it prohibitve most of the time to kill 3-toughness creatures, but it being instant speed can take combat math to some interesting levels. I also like it being a dino, allowing for Boros dinos capitalizing Enrage abilities. You didn’t even comment on the lifelink. I thought I was clever I thought I had, sorry. I had been writing for almost an hour when I got to your entry so I must have skipped it. Gaining huge chunks of life seems funny for you, but i'm not sure if it is for your opponents, creating a huge army of 1/1 to have them instantly wiped by a dino who also heals it's controller can be somewhat frustrating. But that's their fault, don't ever put food in front of a big hungy dino.
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Post by kefke on Mar 19, 2019 23:14:48 GMT
Alright, I didn't understand any of that tourney jargon, but okay...
EDIT: As an aside, "Martial Coup/Secure the Wastes with X equal to all your mana." wouldn't work with Remon at all. Martial Coup only works if you pay four or less (making it overcosted), or Remon isn't out yet. Otherwise it kills him. Secure the Wastes makes warriors, not soldiers.
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Post by sdfkjgh on Mar 19, 2019 23:27:11 GMT
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Post by mrlozano on Mar 19, 2019 23:36:15 GMT
Alright, I didn't understand any of that tourney jargon, but okay... EDIT: As an aside, "Martial Coup/Secure the Wastes with X equal to all your mana." wouldn't work with Remon at all. Martial Coup only works if you pay four or less (making it overcosted), or Remon isn't out yet. Otherwise it kills him. Secure the Wastes makes warriors, not soldiers. You got me with Secure the Wastes, I was so sure it made Soldiers I didn't brother to chech. Whith Martial Coup, you just cast/recast the commander and start throwing soldiers to people. As an aside, what is a tourney jargon? (I'm not sure if you don't know what stax is. If that's the case, well, look here.)
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Post by gateways7 on Mar 20, 2019 22:12:36 GMT
Thanks so much for the win, mrlozano!
War of the Spark spoilers are going to start up in about two weeks, and I don't know about you, but I'm incredibly hyped for it. Therefore, your next challenge is going to be to create a planeswalkers-matter commander! However, this commander cannot be a planeswalker itself. Good luck!
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