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Post by arthurxiv on Aug 22, 2019 10:53:55 GMT
Hello everyone,
I wish to see WotC add a new competitive format but first the community must love it and then WotC must pay attention to it in order to bring it to life. (I am actually not good enough at the game and not old enough to judge if this would be a nice format or not.)
The idea would be to be allowed to play any standard format that ever existed. A player would be able to play a Kamigawa-Mirrodin deck against an Innistrad-RTR deck for example.
For banned cards, either ban only all cards that have ever been banned in standard or ban everything that has ever been banned or restricted in any format. I know that "standard" didn't exist when i started playing the game during the onslaught block but we can pretend that it always existed by conjecturing backwards and allowing things like Tempest-Urza decks.
Do you think this competitive format would be appreciated by players or no one would care about it ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 23:17:21 GMT
I... honestly don't think this is a good idea. For casual games? Sure, why not! As an official, WotC-endorsed format? Almost definitely no. There are several problems with this. First of all, there is a lot of Standard formats. Just look at how many sets we have. Actually, that's not really true! Standard did exist back then, its name was simply "Type 2" though (as opposed to today's Vintage, which was Type 1). Another, possibly the most important problem, is that different periods had different power levels. Like, let's look at this Standard from November 2000: - 6th Edition
- Mercadian Masques
- Nemesis
- Prophecy
- Invasion
And this one from March 1999:
- 8th Edition
- Mirrodin
- Darksteel
- Fifth Dawn
- Champions of Kamigawa
- Betrayers of Kamigawa
Which had: all of the affinity cards, artifact lands, Arcbound Ravager, Disciple of the Vault, and Umezawa's Jitte. Yeah. Don't get me started on Worldwake. (Looking at you, Mystic. You too, Jace.)
The issue is that I believe people would simply cling to the formats which have the best decks. Managing the formats would also be a really big deal, not to mention the hassle with the banlist, unless you use the aforementioned solution of banning everything that has ever been banned anywhere which is less than a perfect solution.
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Post by gateways7 on Aug 23, 2019 0:59:09 GMT
I feel like the audience that this is focused towards is really niche, and while I don't doubt that this format would be tons of fun, the people who want to do this for Modern-legal standards will just play Modern and the only real audience this hits are people that want to play old-border Standard formats again, as those decks have no shot of viability in Vintage or Legacy. Also, it defeats Wizard's goal of trying to focus on Standard play, being that it doesn't incentivize players to buy new cards that they can make money off of.
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Post by arthurxiv on Aug 23, 2019 8:11:10 GMT
@gorgonzola Thanks. Yes you're right it implies that the banlist would be crazy long and people would need to remember a ton of stuff (the banlist, which reprint belongs to which standard...) so it doesn't sound fun anymore when you think about it with a judge's point of view... :/
gateways7 Sadly you're right, i completely forgot about this second problem. For the niche problem, of course magic arena players will not be interested in this and they're a huge part of the community now, and now i see that no one would want to play this as a competitive format. For casual play though it could get very popular in my opinion. |
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Post by Jéské Couriano on Aug 24, 2019 4:15:26 GMT
This sort of thing already exists.
It's called Legacy/Vintage.
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Post by arthurxiv on Aug 25, 2019 11:35:15 GMT
This sort of thing already exists.
It's called Legacy/Vintage.
Nope. Legacy and Vintage don't limit your deck to a 2-block selection of cards. |
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